1
00:00:33,590 --> 00:00:09,700
calling all beings y'all

2
00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,150
yeah

3
00:00:41,350 --> 00:00:38,869
welcome back to calling all beings baby

4
00:00:44,389 --> 00:00:41,360
i'm your host dj so happy to be back it

5
00:00:46,630 --> 00:00:44,399
seems like it's been forever but i am

6
00:00:49,190 --> 00:00:46,640
back and i'm back with my cabbie crew

7
00:00:51,590 --> 00:00:49,200
here let me let me get to him first man

8
00:00:53,830 --> 00:00:51,600
let's not waste any time getting to my

9
00:00:57,029 --> 00:00:53,840
co-host my co-collaborator

10
00:01:01,189 --> 00:00:57,039
co-conspirator the man who is the king

11
00:01:03,910 --> 00:01:01,199
of on-ramps off-ramps unpacking and

12
00:01:06,469 --> 00:01:03,920
ontology money nathan what's going on

13
00:01:09,350 --> 00:01:06,479
baby let yeah let's get onto logical to

14
00:01:10,310 --> 00:01:09,360
start that show off right now

15
00:01:12,149 --> 00:01:10,320
yes

16
00:01:13,910 --> 00:01:12,159
uh good we're gonna have a good time

17
00:01:16,550 --> 00:01:13,920
tonight man it's good to see you guys

18
00:01:17,990 --> 00:01:16,560
i'm yeah i'm telling you baby look down

19
00:01:20,070 --> 00:01:18,000
because he's right below you nathan

20
00:01:27,990 --> 00:01:20,080
there he is right there yes

21
00:01:32,230 --> 00:01:30,069
he's holding the pillars up like like

22
00:01:34,149 --> 00:01:32,240
samson hopefully we nobody will cut his

23
00:01:37,510 --> 00:01:34,159
hair in in mid show because something

24
00:01:40,870 --> 00:01:37,520
bad can really happen hi kevin hi

25
00:01:42,230 --> 00:01:40,880
my adam's apple jiggles

26
00:01:45,510 --> 00:01:42,240
i see it

27
00:01:47,350 --> 00:01:45,520
it says hello everyone

28
00:01:50,710 --> 00:01:47,360
we're getting into some what's that

29
00:01:52,870 --> 00:01:50,720
movie with arnold i can't remember

30
00:01:55,030 --> 00:01:52,880
where conan maybe or i don't know no the

31
00:01:57,670 --> 00:01:55,040
one with sharon stone is his wife i

32
00:01:59,270 --> 00:01:57,680
can't remember now oh

33
00:02:01,830 --> 00:01:59,280
no no no no

34
00:02:03,830 --> 00:02:01,840
no it's not the joplin one the one with

35
00:02:06,389 --> 00:02:03,840
he has the the mask yeah it comes off

36
00:02:06,399 --> 00:02:16,190
oh yeah

37
00:02:20,150 --> 00:02:18,550
[Laughter]

38
00:02:22,869 --> 00:02:20,160
and kev if you can just look to your

39
00:02:25,910 --> 00:02:22,879
left at our friend right there she is uh

40
00:02:29,030 --> 00:02:25,920
the therapist uh she's a therapist not

41
00:02:31,750 --> 00:02:29,040
only for uh kids and adults but for ufo

42
00:02:35,509 --> 00:02:31,760
twitter so uh party people put yo hands

43
00:02:37,750 --> 00:02:35,519
together for the host of deb's data dojo

44
00:02:41,190 --> 00:02:37,760
at a study of uap's deb how are you my

45
00:02:42,309 --> 00:02:41,200
dear i'm doing great hello everybody hey

46
00:02:44,229 --> 00:02:42,319
deb

47
00:02:46,390 --> 00:02:44,239
great job last night but now let's let's

48
00:02:47,430 --> 00:02:46,400
get to the man of honor

49
00:02:49,110 --> 00:02:47,440
all right

50
00:02:51,270 --> 00:02:49,120
i'll tell you what man i'm very i'm very

51
00:02:53,350 --> 00:02:51,280
excited to talk to this guy uh he has a

52
00:02:56,550 --> 00:02:53,360
really cool background he's gonna tell

53
00:02:58,949 --> 00:02:56,560
us what his his occupation was he was on

54
00:03:01,750 --> 00:02:58,959
the bad side of cyber now he's on the

55
00:03:05,190 --> 00:03:01,760
good side of cyber he's a badass he's in

56
00:03:07,750 --> 00:03:05,200
the masonic order so everybody all right

57
00:03:10,710 --> 00:03:07,760
get ready for this man because tonight

58
00:03:13,350 --> 00:03:10,720
you facing the mason so put your hands

59
00:03:15,090 --> 00:03:13,360
together for john

60
00:03:18,869 --> 00:03:15,100
majorowski

61
00:03:22,070 --> 00:03:20,869
together wipe that chicken grease off

62
00:03:23,750 --> 00:03:22,080
your hands

63
00:03:25,670 --> 00:03:23,760
what's going on man

64
00:03:27,990 --> 00:03:25,680
wow it feels like i'm either

65
00:03:29,589 --> 00:03:28,000
back in the club or uh getting ready to

66
00:03:31,270 --> 00:03:29,599
wrestle and i can't figure out which one

67
00:03:33,190 --> 00:03:31,280
but i'm excited both of those vibes are

68
00:03:34,550 --> 00:03:33,200
good yeah yeah i dig it yeah hey

69
00:03:36,710 --> 00:03:34,560
wrestling at the club

70
00:03:37,990 --> 00:03:36,720
wrestling i tell you what man

71
00:03:40,550 --> 00:03:38,000
cool voice

72
00:03:42,630 --> 00:03:40,560
cool vibe cool hair

73
00:03:44,550 --> 00:03:42,640
like we said earlier you probably smell

74
00:03:46,949 --> 00:03:44,560
good what do you got to say for yourself

75
00:03:48,390 --> 00:03:46,959
majerowski what's up huh well thanks for

76
00:03:49,270 --> 00:03:48,400
inviting me i got the red jacket out

77
00:03:50,470 --> 00:03:49,280
tonight i figured it was going to be a

78
00:03:51,589 --> 00:03:50,480
special night and i brought it up the

79
00:03:53,270 --> 00:03:51,599
whole entire bottle because i figured

80
00:03:54,869 --> 00:03:53,280
it'd be that kind of night

81
00:03:57,110 --> 00:03:54,879
well it started out as a bottle we got

82
00:03:58,309 --> 00:03:57,120
it that far

83
00:04:01,030 --> 00:03:58,319
hello

84
00:04:02,630 --> 00:04:01,040
the total package yeah

85
00:04:04,470 --> 00:04:02,640
i like to i'd like to be remembered as

86
00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:04,480
the dean martin of ufology so that's

87
00:04:08,550 --> 00:04:06,560
that's how i want to go oh man i love it

88
00:04:10,869 --> 00:04:08,560
i'm trying to remember the song that he

89
00:04:12,229 --> 00:04:10,879
that he did oh there's so many good ones

90
00:04:13,190 --> 00:04:12,239
don't yeah they're all amazing every

91
00:04:14,710 --> 00:04:13,200
single one

92
00:04:16,870 --> 00:04:14,720
it's the best

93
00:04:18,390 --> 00:04:16,880
dean martin is cool man part of the rat

94
00:04:20,710 --> 00:04:18,400
the the rat pack

95
00:04:22,310 --> 00:04:20,720
uh with sammy davis jr i'm trying to

96
00:04:23,909 --> 00:04:22,320
remember there was a british guy as well

97
00:04:25,990 --> 00:04:23,919
that i can't think of his name and

98
00:04:27,270 --> 00:04:26,000
obviously sinatra so

99
00:04:29,830 --> 00:04:27,280
yeah um

100
00:04:31,270 --> 00:04:29,840
but uh great times great time yes uh but

101
00:04:33,510 --> 00:04:31,280
you know what let me turn it over to the

102
00:04:34,390 --> 00:04:33,520
money man he's going to take it away

103
00:04:35,510 --> 00:04:34,400
john

104
00:04:36,870 --> 00:04:35,520
great to talk about that good to have

105
00:04:38,310 --> 00:04:36,880
you to talk with you you're the only guy

106
00:04:39,270 --> 00:04:38,320
that i know that it's actually seen the

107
00:04:41,030 --> 00:04:39,280
face

108
00:04:43,749 --> 00:04:41,040
of one of one of these people that we

109
00:04:45,430 --> 00:04:43,759
know

110
00:04:46,710 --> 00:04:45,440
excellent academia yeah you're the only

111
00:04:48,230 --> 00:04:46,720
guy that i know has actually seen his

112
00:04:49,909 --> 00:04:48,240
face right yeah

113
00:04:52,150 --> 00:04:49,919
you could do a show with him i just had

114
00:04:54,950 --> 00:04:52,160
a a drink with him last night we had a

115
00:04:56,550 --> 00:04:54,960
great time um he is human right he's a

116
00:04:58,710 --> 00:04:56,560
real person i mean i think he's a real

117
00:05:00,710 --> 00:04:58,720
person well i mean you've seen that yeah

118
00:05:03,270 --> 00:05:00,720
i have but it's hard to know

119
00:05:05,350 --> 00:05:03,280
hey yeah oh yeah there's there's there's

120
00:05:07,670 --> 00:05:05,360
the other person who i've seen in real

121
00:05:09,270 --> 00:05:07,680
life over here on our show

122
00:05:11,590 --> 00:05:09,280
gravitate to nathan

123
00:05:12,870 --> 00:05:11,600
yes well anyway he sends his uh regards

124
00:05:14,469 --> 00:05:12,880
he he

125
00:05:16,870 --> 00:05:14,479
wants to let you know that he's a big

126
00:05:18,230 --> 00:05:16,880
fan of you as well and uh and john i've

127
00:05:20,390 --> 00:05:18,240
been listening to you for a while man i

128
00:05:22,469 --> 00:05:20,400
love what you do i love your insight

129
00:05:24,310 --> 00:05:22,479
i've honestly never known a free mason

130
00:05:25,670 --> 00:05:24,320
like that i knew that they were a

131
00:05:26,550 --> 00:05:25,680
freemason

132
00:05:27,909 --> 00:05:26,560
and

133
00:05:31,189 --> 00:05:27,919
i think it's pretty cool that you've

134
00:05:32,950 --> 00:05:31,199
been so forthcoming uh in this community

135
00:05:34,390 --> 00:05:32,960
and bringing that background to bear

136
00:05:35,270 --> 00:05:34,400
what what's something that kind of has

137
00:05:37,110 --> 00:05:35,280
uh

138
00:05:38,629 --> 00:05:37,120
maybe like surprised you about your

139
00:05:40,230 --> 00:05:38,639
engagement with

140
00:05:41,670 --> 00:05:40,240
the ufo subject

141
00:05:42,870 --> 00:05:41,680
with your background

142
00:05:44,469 --> 00:05:42,880
um

143
00:05:47,189 --> 00:05:44,479
well i i think

144
00:05:48,950 --> 00:05:47,199
as a as a mason kind of in that regard

145
00:05:50,150 --> 00:05:48,960
um well

146
00:05:52,230 --> 00:05:50,160
you know the cool thing about being a

147
00:05:54,550 --> 00:05:52,240
freemason and freemasons in general is

148
00:05:57,110 --> 00:05:54,560
that we're pretty tolerant of everything

149
00:05:58,790 --> 00:05:57,120
and i'd say that to the extreme right so

150
00:06:00,710 --> 00:05:58,800
um obviously if you look back

151
00:06:02,710 --> 00:06:00,720
historically you know most of the

152
00:06:05,029 --> 00:06:02,720
revolutions were kind of

153
00:06:06,469 --> 00:06:05,039
um you know hatched maybe in a masonic

154
00:06:08,070 --> 00:06:06,479
lodge and you know for mason's had a lot

155
00:06:10,390 --> 00:06:08,080
to do with it and you know basically

156
00:06:12,469 --> 00:06:10,400
bringing that sense of freedom you know

157
00:06:13,990 --> 00:06:12,479
uh individuality to everybody to have

158
00:06:15,670 --> 00:06:14,000
their own decisions and tolerance for

159
00:06:17,670 --> 00:06:15,680
all you know um

160
00:06:20,070 --> 00:06:17,680
so you know the tenants of freemasonry

161
00:06:22,070 --> 00:06:20,080
are really along those lines you know

162
00:06:23,670 --> 00:06:22,080
faith hope charity you know

163
00:06:25,110 --> 00:06:23,680
and things like that and

164
00:06:27,110 --> 00:06:25,120
when you look at this subject it's kind

165
00:06:28,550 --> 00:06:27,120
of one of those things where you know

166
00:06:29,990 --> 00:06:28,560
you would think

167
00:06:31,990 --> 00:06:30,000
um

168
00:06:33,830 --> 00:06:32,000
you know we've all experienced taboo

169
00:06:35,270 --> 00:06:33,840
right we talk about at the dinner table

170
00:06:36,309 --> 00:06:35,280
or you know even our own families or

171
00:06:37,830 --> 00:06:36,319
friends or things like that and

172
00:06:39,189 --> 00:06:37,840
everybody you know says oh you know this

173
00:06:41,670 --> 00:06:39,199
info hat and you're crazy and stuff like

174
00:06:44,150 --> 00:06:41,680
that but in in the lodge you know i

175
00:06:45,270 --> 00:06:44,160
never really um

176
00:06:46,390 --> 00:06:45,280
you know

177
00:06:47,350 --> 00:06:46,400
i've talked about it but not like

178
00:06:48,550 --> 00:06:47,360
obviously during a lodge meeting you

179
00:06:50,070 --> 00:06:48,560
know before after things like that

180
00:06:51,589 --> 00:06:50,080
obviously there's no kind of not a lot

181
00:06:53,670 --> 00:06:51,599
of just open floor to be you know like

182
00:06:55,270 --> 00:06:53,680
hey you know get out there and just

183
00:06:57,270 --> 00:06:55,280
start going off about you know this

184
00:06:58,790 --> 00:06:57,280
phenomenon or anything but um you know i

185
00:06:59,670 --> 00:06:58,800
talked to a couple brothers and you know

186
00:07:01,909 --> 00:06:59,680
that you know there's a lot of

187
00:07:03,670 --> 00:07:01,919
servicemen and you know that are that

188
00:07:05,350 --> 00:07:03,680
were um that our masons you know that

189
00:07:06,790 --> 00:07:05,360
were in the service currently or you

190
00:07:08,469 --> 00:07:06,800
know retired things like that as well

191
00:07:10,390 --> 00:07:08,479
and and a lot of that

192
00:07:11,670 --> 00:07:10,400
a lot of that so it's not like i'm

193
00:07:13,909 --> 00:07:11,680
telling them anything they really don't

194
00:07:15,189 --> 00:07:13,919
know and i think it's it's

195
00:07:17,110 --> 00:07:15,199
you know it took a lot for me in the

196
00:07:18,230 --> 00:07:17,120
beginning to you know to go out and just

197
00:07:21,189 --> 00:07:18,240
kind of just start talking about it but

198
00:07:22,950 --> 00:07:21,199
once i did it was kind of like

199
00:07:24,469 --> 00:07:22,960
you find your ilk you know and it's not

200
00:07:25,830 --> 00:07:24,479
only just the ufo or the phenomenon

201
00:07:26,870 --> 00:07:25,840
thing or whatever it's kind of about

202
00:07:28,230 --> 00:07:26,880
about talent like i said in the

203
00:07:30,550 --> 00:07:28,240
beginning like kind of tolerance for all

204
00:07:31,830 --> 00:07:30,560
and be able to just say okay cool maybe

205
00:07:33,990 --> 00:07:31,840
you have this different background that

206
00:07:34,870 --> 00:07:34,000
i'm completely not even aware of or part

207
00:07:36,710 --> 00:07:34,880
of

208
00:07:39,670 --> 00:07:36,720
and and you know i have no idea about

209
00:07:41,589 --> 00:07:39,680
but you know i i respect his brother and

210
00:07:43,830 --> 00:07:41,599
your opinions and and things like that

211
00:07:45,189 --> 00:07:43,840
and and you entertain it and and you

212
00:07:47,510 --> 00:07:45,199
know and you learn something all the

213
00:07:49,270 --> 00:07:47,520
time so that's kind of um where i went

214
00:07:51,110 --> 00:07:49,280
with it and you know recently

215
00:07:53,110 --> 00:07:51,120
um i think it was last week that i put a

216
00:07:54,469 --> 00:07:53,120
video of a lecture i gave um to my

217
00:07:57,029 --> 00:07:54,479
brother's lodge

218
00:07:58,150 --> 00:07:57,039
uh rubicon and um that was the first

219
00:08:00,230 --> 00:07:58,160
time that i really got in front of that

220
00:08:02,629 --> 00:08:00,240
many masons and kind of just went blah

221
00:08:04,710 --> 00:08:02,639
this is me and this is like what i do

222
00:08:06,710 --> 00:08:04,720
you know yeah and uh it was really it

223
00:08:08,629 --> 00:08:06,720
was really well received and i was still

224
00:08:10,710 --> 00:08:08,639
getting i'm still getting emails from

225
00:08:13,110 --> 00:08:10,720
brothers and you know after that after

226
00:08:14,550 --> 00:08:13,120
that um lecture i think i stood there

227
00:08:16,390 --> 00:08:14,560
for about another hour and a half and

228
00:08:18,070 --> 00:08:16,400
just had guys come up one by one and

229
00:08:19,110 --> 00:08:18,080
just tell me the most amazing stories

230
00:08:20,150 --> 00:08:19,120
after that

231
00:08:21,990 --> 00:08:20,160
they didn't feel like they could tell

232
00:08:23,430 --> 00:08:22,000
anybody before and it was like now that

233
00:08:25,029 --> 00:08:23,440
it's out and the way i kind of laid it

234
00:08:26,629 --> 00:08:25,039
out it was like you know this is real

235
00:08:28,869 --> 00:08:26,639
the stigma's gone the way that because

236
00:08:29,749 --> 00:08:28,879
there was a stigma for so many years

237
00:08:32,310 --> 00:08:29,759
was

238
00:08:33,750 --> 00:08:32,320
definitely created for a purpose you

239
00:08:35,509 --> 00:08:33,760
know the robinson panel set that all up

240
00:08:36,870 --> 00:08:35,519
and we're still living and breathing it

241
00:08:38,469 --> 00:08:36,880
now so

242
00:08:39,990 --> 00:08:38,479
you know it's don't be afraid to talk

243
00:08:41,190 --> 00:08:40,000
about it you know and and i think it

244
00:08:42,550 --> 00:08:41,200
kind of opened the door a little bit and

245
00:08:44,230 --> 00:08:42,560
a lot of guys have reached out a lot a

246
00:08:45,990 --> 00:08:44,240
lot of brothers have emailed me um that

247
00:08:46,949 --> 00:08:46,000
haven't you know met before but they

248
00:08:48,550 --> 00:08:46,959
said hey

249
00:08:49,910 --> 00:08:48,560
you know i was kind of afraid to talk

250
00:08:52,150 --> 00:08:49,920
about this now but thank you for doing

251
00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:52,160
that you know i kind of feel more

252
00:08:56,070 --> 00:08:54,560
inclined to be able to do in my lodge so

253
00:08:57,670 --> 00:08:56,080
i think that's rad all the way across

254
00:08:59,110 --> 00:08:57,680
the board i think i talked way too long

255
00:09:01,030 --> 00:08:59,120
and i'm sorry

256
00:09:02,630 --> 00:09:01,040
no i thought listen i thought it was

257
00:09:04,790 --> 00:09:02,640
amazing and those of you who are

258
00:09:06,389 --> 00:09:04,800
listening uh with us now or listening

259
00:09:08,550 --> 00:09:06,399
later you definitely gotta check that

260
00:09:10,710 --> 00:09:08,560
out go to john's channel ufo's on the

261
00:09:13,509 --> 00:09:10,720
level on youtube it's uh one of your

262
00:09:15,269 --> 00:09:13,519
most recent uh posts or you know videos

263
00:09:17,030 --> 00:09:15,279
there it's just it's really well done a

264
00:09:17,990 --> 00:09:17,040
great summary honestly of kind of the

265
00:09:19,269 --> 00:09:18,000
topic

266
00:09:21,030 --> 00:09:19,279
uh from

267
00:09:23,509 --> 00:09:21,040
you know kind of recent events and uh

268
00:09:25,030 --> 00:09:23,519
even even old stuff as well

269
00:09:27,110 --> 00:09:25,040
you mentioned the word tolerance and

270
00:09:29,670 --> 00:09:27,120
that's not a word that i think of in

271
00:09:32,310 --> 00:09:29,680
terms of a synonym that i would use for

272
00:09:34,790 --> 00:09:32,320
the ufo twitter community uh at least in

273
00:09:35,910 --> 00:09:34,800
the last few weeks and i was wondering i

274
00:09:38,470 --> 00:09:35,920
really wanted to get your thoughts

275
00:09:40,870 --> 00:09:38,480
because you've been living in community

276
00:09:42,470 --> 00:09:40,880
an intentional community for so long you

277
00:09:44,710 --> 00:09:42,480
know what what are some

278
00:09:46,550 --> 00:09:44,720
you know kind of tenants and values

279
00:09:49,350 --> 00:09:46,560
that you think we would be well served

280
00:09:51,829 --> 00:09:49,360
to adopt uh as we kind of interact with

281
00:09:53,190 --> 00:09:51,839
each other in a charitable way uh you

282
00:09:54,710 --> 00:09:53,200
know kind of kind of turn down the

283
00:09:56,550 --> 00:09:54,720
temperature a little bit what are some

284
00:09:58,070 --> 00:09:56,560
of what some advice you have there

285
00:10:00,710 --> 00:09:58,080
well you know some of the core tenants

286
00:10:02,710 --> 00:10:00,720
of freemasonry are brotherly love relief

287
00:10:04,230 --> 00:10:02,720
and truth you know and those are the

288
00:10:05,590 --> 00:10:04,240
three cores that you kind of go back to

289
00:10:07,509 --> 00:10:05,600
you know brother love love for your

290
00:10:09,990 --> 00:10:07,519
brother if your fellow man you know

291
00:10:12,230 --> 00:10:10,000
woman you know just just basically

292
00:10:13,910 --> 00:10:12,240
self-explanatory you know relief relief

293
00:10:15,030 --> 00:10:13,920
worthy and distressed people that need

294
00:10:16,069 --> 00:10:15,040
help you know there's people out there

295
00:10:17,190 --> 00:10:16,079
that are suffering that actually need

296
00:10:19,030 --> 00:10:17,200
help maybe they just need somebody to

297
00:10:20,470 --> 00:10:19,040
talk to maybe that you know they've gone

298
00:10:22,550 --> 00:10:20,480
through some some experience and nobody

299
00:10:23,670 --> 00:10:22,560
wants to believe them or you know maybe

300
00:10:25,990 --> 00:10:23,680
they've

301
00:10:27,990 --> 00:10:26,000
been subject to some type of

302
00:10:30,230 --> 00:10:28,000
experiment or something that you know we

303
00:10:31,670 --> 00:10:30,240
can't even explain um and they're just

304
00:10:33,430 --> 00:10:31,680
looking for a voice you know and and

305
00:10:35,590 --> 00:10:33,440
truth i mean it's obviously the truth

306
00:10:37,670 --> 00:10:35,600
and we all want the truth right so

307
00:10:39,190 --> 00:10:37,680
i think that um you know a lot of the

308
00:10:41,509 --> 00:10:39,200
times

309
00:10:43,590 --> 00:10:41,519
we're so quick to just jump on things

310
00:10:45,750 --> 00:10:43,600
and you know nitpick and get at things

311
00:10:47,190 --> 00:10:45,760
and we never we look at the you know the

312
00:10:49,670 --> 00:10:47,200
characters that are in that tweet right

313
00:10:51,750 --> 00:10:49,680
we never look at the ration the person

314
00:10:55,350 --> 00:10:51,760
or or the rationale behind those things

315
00:10:56,870 --> 00:10:55,360
or what it is and and you know i think

316
00:10:58,470 --> 00:10:56,880
it it would

317
00:11:00,069 --> 00:10:58,480
serve people well to just you know take

318
00:11:01,509 --> 00:11:00,079
your hands off the keyboard for a second

319
00:11:02,870 --> 00:11:01,519
and just think about it you know just

320
00:11:05,829 --> 00:11:02,880
kind of think about it you know and a

321
00:11:08,150 --> 00:11:05,839
lot of the times and you know from my my

322
00:11:09,190 --> 00:11:08,160
day job my real my security background

323
00:11:11,750 --> 00:11:09,200
you know

324
00:11:13,350 --> 00:11:11,760
that we're out there thinking that we're

325
00:11:15,509 --> 00:11:13,360
interacting with actual humans and their

326
00:11:17,509 --> 00:11:15,519
bots you know their actual ai their

327
00:11:19,590 --> 00:11:17,519
programs that are just

328
00:11:21,509 --> 00:11:19,600
written to engage people and just hit

329
00:11:24,389 --> 00:11:21,519
pressure points and you know just amp

330
00:11:26,310 --> 00:11:24,399
things up and create havoc and you know

331
00:11:28,470 --> 00:11:26,320
that's sometimes lost on people i think

332
00:11:30,150 --> 00:11:28,480
it's lost more more than than you would

333
00:11:31,910 --> 00:11:30,160
think you know so a lot of times when

334
00:11:34,310 --> 00:11:31,920
you're screaming at you know billy who's

335
00:11:36,790 --> 00:11:34,320
you know just saying a bunch of garbage

336
00:11:39,509 --> 00:11:36,800
that could just be a bot

337
00:11:42,790 --> 00:11:39,519
right has that been uh gbt3 that's kind

338
00:11:44,870 --> 00:11:42,800
of like created that situation uh

339
00:11:47,190 --> 00:11:44,880
that i'm not familiar with that the the

340
00:11:49,190 --> 00:11:47,200
gpt-3 is like the um

341
00:11:51,190 --> 00:11:49,200
ai uh

342
00:11:53,990 --> 00:11:51,200
sort of natural lent language

343
00:11:56,470 --> 00:11:54,000
uh machine or it's um it's like the

344
00:11:58,150 --> 00:11:56,480
latest iteration of that and there's a

345
00:11:59,509 --> 00:11:58,160
there's a lot of cool things it can do

346
00:12:01,430 --> 00:11:59,519
like there's a there's an app you can

347
00:12:03,190 --> 00:12:01,440
download called uh ai dungeon you can

348
00:12:04,949 --> 00:12:03,200
basically have your own little

349
00:12:06,150 --> 00:12:04,959
like interactive remember those like

350
00:12:08,310 --> 00:12:06,160
games when we were kids where you could

351
00:12:09,910 --> 00:12:08,320
kind of like you type in a text command

352
00:12:11,910 --> 00:12:09,920
and you go down a hallway and then it's

353
00:12:13,750 --> 00:12:11,920
like open the door or look in the box oh

354
00:12:16,150 --> 00:12:13,760
look at it yes it creates a game like

355
00:12:17,910 --> 00:12:16,160
that but it's all it's entirely ai

356
00:12:18,949 --> 00:12:17,920
driven but it's based on this natural

357
00:12:21,670 --> 00:12:18,959
language

358
00:12:23,190 --> 00:12:21,680
uh ai that they that they created i

359
00:12:24,710 --> 00:12:23,200
thought i was talking about the upscale

360
00:12:25,990 --> 00:12:24,720
package of the trans am that you could

361
00:12:27,590 --> 00:12:26,000
order when you said that i was like oh

362
00:12:31,670 --> 00:12:27,600
yeah

363
00:12:32,949 --> 00:12:31,680
for sure the recaro seats

364
00:12:34,790 --> 00:12:32,959
that's a great point that you bring up

365
00:12:37,110 --> 00:12:34,800
though john and i don't think i knew

366
00:12:38,870 --> 00:12:37,120
that that it was that prevalent so

367
00:12:41,350 --> 00:12:38,880
it's really prevalent i mean and it's

368
00:12:43,110 --> 00:12:41,360
used a lot by the

369
00:12:44,470 --> 00:12:43,120
you know the military industrial complex

370
00:12:46,230 --> 00:12:44,480
we want to call them right so the

371
00:12:47,910 --> 00:12:46,240
agencies because you know nobody's

372
00:12:49,110 --> 00:12:47,920
paying anybody to sit behind keys you

373
00:12:51,509 --> 00:12:49,120
know anymore i mean you could create

374
00:12:52,550 --> 00:12:51,519
natural language chat bots that can go

375
00:12:53,910 --> 00:12:52,560
out there and do that i mean a lot of

376
00:12:55,670 --> 00:12:53,920
the times you ever go to a website that

377
00:12:56,949 --> 00:12:55,680
that little thing pops up in the corner

378
00:12:58,069 --> 00:12:56,959
it's like hey do you want to talk hey

379
00:12:59,269 --> 00:12:58,079
what's going on can i tell you you know

380
00:13:01,670 --> 00:12:59,279
you can actually talk to that thing

381
00:13:02,949 --> 00:13:01,680
forever you know amazon uses it too when

382
00:13:04,550 --> 00:13:02,959
your package is late or something you're

383
00:13:05,990 --> 00:13:04,560
like hey what's going on and you know

384
00:13:07,590 --> 00:13:06,000
you get through 10 minutes of this thing

385
00:13:09,430 --> 00:13:07,600
talking to you and then it's finally let

386
00:13:11,750 --> 00:13:09,440
me connect you to a human you know

387
00:13:12,870 --> 00:13:11,760
so um those things are really prevalent

388
00:13:14,870 --> 00:13:12,880
and they're out there all over the place

389
00:13:16,790 --> 00:13:14,880
and it's i mean if you think about it

390
00:13:18,150 --> 00:13:16,800
think about in terms of not only

391
00:13:19,590 --> 00:13:18,160
the united states government it could be

392
00:13:20,550 --> 00:13:19,600
other governments right it could it

393
00:13:25,190 --> 00:13:20,560
could be

394
00:13:27,190 --> 00:13:25,200
know any nation states governments

395
00:13:30,550 --> 00:13:27,200
whatever doing it so

396
00:13:32,710 --> 00:13:30,560
um you got to kind of uh take it with

397
00:13:33,910 --> 00:13:32,720
a broader scope you know brush with a

398
00:13:35,350 --> 00:13:33,920
broader brush when you're looking at

399
00:13:37,350 --> 00:13:35,360
those things and you know i'm not going

400
00:13:39,430 --> 00:13:37,360
to say that i don't get affected and and

401
00:13:40,790 --> 00:13:39,440
things like that too i think my gut

402
00:13:42,870 --> 00:13:40,800
response sometimes when i don't know how

403
00:13:44,150 --> 00:13:42,880
to respond is just to send a meme you

404
00:13:46,069 --> 00:13:44,160
know

405
00:13:47,590 --> 00:13:46,079
yeah you respond to that chatbot you

406
00:13:48,470 --> 00:13:47,600
know i mean i don't know

407
00:13:51,509 --> 00:13:48,480
but

408
00:13:53,269 --> 00:13:51,519
i think what you started off with though

409
00:13:55,509 --> 00:13:53,279
i think we should all take stock in and

410
00:13:57,269 --> 00:13:55,519
you mentioned that your brothers started

411
00:13:59,509 --> 00:13:57,279
to come up to you and talk about their

412
00:14:01,269 --> 00:13:59,519
experiences and share and if we were

413
00:14:03,590 --> 00:14:01,279
having this conversation so let's say

414
00:14:06,629 --> 00:14:03,600
it's 20 22. if we were having this

415
00:14:08,069 --> 00:14:06,639
conversation in 2017 or something um

416
00:14:09,990 --> 00:14:08,079
that's not happening

417
00:14:11,910 --> 00:14:10,000
people are not coming out and talking

418
00:14:14,710 --> 00:14:11,920
about their experiences i didn't talk

419
00:14:17,269 --> 00:14:14,720
about my experience back then and

420
00:14:20,069 --> 00:14:17,279
wouldn't have and and so i think there's

421
00:14:20,949 --> 00:14:20,079
something to take stock in how far we've

422
00:14:23,829 --> 00:14:20,959
come

423
00:14:26,230 --> 00:14:23,839
that while it's not mainstream i mean

424
00:14:28,710 --> 00:14:26,240
anybody that says it's mainstream i got

425
00:14:30,230 --> 00:14:28,720
news for you it's not mainstream but the

426
00:14:32,550 --> 00:14:30,240
fact that people are having the

427
00:14:35,030 --> 00:14:32,560
conversation in public without feeling

428
00:14:38,629 --> 00:14:35,040
stupid means that we've made

429
00:14:41,189 --> 00:14:38,639
significant progress since ttsa the navy

430
00:14:42,710 --> 00:14:41,199
videos elizondo and all that stuff we're

431
00:14:44,470 --> 00:14:42,720
in a different place now

432
00:14:45,430 --> 00:14:44,480
i think you're right you're right no

433
00:14:47,910 --> 00:14:45,440
you're totally right and that's kind of

434
00:14:49,269 --> 00:14:47,920
how um when i built that uh that lecture

435
00:14:50,629 --> 00:14:49,279
i mean that lecture i've been working on

436
00:14:52,710 --> 00:14:50,639
a lecture for about four months believe

437
00:14:54,550 --> 00:14:52,720
it or not wow and it's just been like

438
00:14:55,829 --> 00:14:54,560
well because i wanted to to you know

439
00:14:57,269 --> 00:14:55,839
we're talking a guy we're looking at

440
00:15:01,030 --> 00:14:57,279
guys that are

441
00:15:03,030 --> 00:15:01,040
22 to 98 like no no joke right that's

442
00:15:04,629 --> 00:15:03,040
that's literally the the age range so

443
00:15:06,550 --> 00:15:04,639
you got the guys that were in actually

444
00:15:07,670 --> 00:15:06,560
in world war two right you got the guys

445
00:15:09,110 --> 00:15:07,680
who are in korea and vietnam you know

446
00:15:10,069 --> 00:15:09,120
you got you got all of these things that

447
00:15:11,430 --> 00:15:10,079
people have been in these you know if

448
00:15:13,030 --> 00:15:11,440
you just look at the major battles of

449
00:15:16,470 --> 00:15:13,040
the united states but then you got guys

450
00:15:18,389 --> 00:15:16,480
from a wide swath of you know different

451
00:15:20,069 --> 00:15:18,399
backgrounds and you know understandings

452
00:15:21,509 --> 00:15:20,079
of things and so what i wanted to do is

453
00:15:23,189 --> 00:15:21,519
kind of paint it into a picture of okay

454
00:15:24,870 --> 00:15:23,199
these are the the you know

455
00:15:26,629 --> 00:15:24,880
major cultural things that we're aware

456
00:15:27,910 --> 00:15:26,639
of but here's the underliers and then

457
00:15:29,749 --> 00:15:27,920
here's what built upon that and then

458
00:15:31,030 --> 00:15:29,759
kind of build it up to where here's what

459
00:15:32,389 --> 00:15:31,040
happened in 17. here's what happened

460
00:15:33,990 --> 00:15:32,399
with the long behind the scenes before

461
00:15:35,749 --> 00:15:34,000
that and here's what happened in 17 and

462
00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:35,759
that's kind of this is the the rocky

463
00:15:40,629 --> 00:15:37,680
road we're on now you know so it kind of

464
00:15:43,110 --> 00:15:40,639
paints it in a you know in a

465
00:15:44,310 --> 00:15:43,120
more up-to-date kind of mindset and i

466
00:15:45,509 --> 00:15:44,320
think that kind of really it really

467
00:15:47,350 --> 00:15:45,519
worked because you know i had guys that

468
00:15:48,629 --> 00:15:47,360
were just kind of like

469
00:15:50,150 --> 00:15:48,639
they were like hey i really didn't think

470
00:15:51,910 --> 00:15:50,160
about this at all but you know this is

471
00:15:53,910 --> 00:15:51,920
pretty cool and i'm going to go do some

472
00:15:55,110 --> 00:15:53,920
research which is great you know what i

473
00:15:56,550 --> 00:15:55,120
mean that's

474
00:15:57,990 --> 00:15:56,560
that's awesome because if you can get

475
00:15:59,350 --> 00:15:58,000
somebody to kind of get into it who

476
00:16:00,550 --> 00:15:59,360
maybe didn't have any idea but now

477
00:16:01,749 --> 00:16:00,560
they're into it i mean that's perfect

478
00:16:02,949 --> 00:16:01,759
you know then you've got the other guys

479
00:16:06,150 --> 00:16:02,959
are like yeah i've been into it forever

480
00:16:09,110 --> 00:16:06,160
and that's rad too but you know

481
00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:09,120
big swath of everybody so yeah yeah

482
00:16:12,470 --> 00:16:10,880
flares what do you got for john you both

483
00:16:13,670 --> 00:16:12,480
have great hair what would you like to

484
00:16:16,790 --> 00:16:13,680
talk about

485
00:16:18,389 --> 00:16:16,800
oh my god i got so much

486
00:16:19,990 --> 00:16:18,399
to ask you

487
00:16:22,629 --> 00:16:20,000
thank you for being here and by the way

488
00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:22,639
to you um the listeners if you haven't

489
00:16:25,990 --> 00:16:24,160
watched um

490
00:16:28,310 --> 00:16:26,000
what what he put together it's almost

491
00:16:29,590 --> 00:16:28,320
like a documentary it's his lecture in

492
00:16:31,269 --> 00:16:29,600
fact it's better than a lot of

493
00:16:33,030 --> 00:16:31,279
documentaries if you're just getting

494
00:16:35,509 --> 00:16:33,040
into the ufo topic like a lot of my

495
00:16:37,509 --> 00:16:35,519
friends on facebook please watch his

496
00:16:39,829 --> 00:16:37,519
lecture it's going to give you a great

497
00:16:41,590 --> 00:16:39,839
primer on everything it's just perfect

498
00:16:44,470 --> 00:16:41,600
and you know it was 130 slides i

499
00:16:46,150 --> 00:16:44,480
delivered in an hour and 20 minutes it's

500
00:16:47,829 --> 00:16:46,160
a great listing i got to tell you it's

501
00:16:48,949 --> 00:16:47,839
terri my wife was my cat i kept like

502
00:16:50,790 --> 00:16:48,959
trying to run it past my she's like that

503
00:16:53,189 --> 00:16:50,800
stupid quit quit putting slides in

504
00:16:56,230 --> 00:16:53,199
there's too many slides takes 70 out

505
00:16:57,670 --> 00:16:56,240
take it yeah she's like take 70.

506
00:16:59,269 --> 00:16:57,680
i'm like i can't this is important

507
00:17:00,790 --> 00:16:59,279
that's the thing

508
00:17:01,910 --> 00:17:00,800
you don't know you know fatima we got to

509
00:17:02,870 --> 00:17:01,920
take care of that

510
00:17:04,150 --> 00:17:02,880
absolutely

511
00:17:06,630 --> 00:17:04,160
i really appreciate that thank you very

512
00:17:08,789 --> 00:17:06,640
much thank you so i wanted to ask you um

513
00:17:11,590 --> 00:17:08,799
as as a mason you know you've got

514
00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:11,600
houdini was freemason mozart

515
00:17:16,390 --> 00:17:13,760
um buzz lightyear um

516
00:17:19,510 --> 00:17:16,400
randall carlson the hero of mine have

517
00:17:23,669 --> 00:17:19,520
you met randall not in real life okay

518
00:17:26,710 --> 00:17:24,549
sorry

519
00:17:28,470 --> 00:17:26,720
go ahead

520
00:17:30,470 --> 00:17:28,480
so how does being a freemason affect the

521
00:17:32,950 --> 00:17:30,480
way you interpret your understanding of

522
00:17:34,950 --> 00:17:32,960
the ufo phenomenon

523
00:17:36,310 --> 00:17:34,960
oh so that's red see uh you know and i

524
00:17:39,029 --> 00:17:36,320
talked to scott walter right he's a

525
00:17:40,390 --> 00:17:39,039
brother as well and you know um

526
00:17:41,909 --> 00:17:40,400
and i was like scott i've been looking

527
00:17:44,230 --> 00:17:41,919
for this i mean scott's great man he's

528
00:17:46,549 --> 00:17:44,240
done you know so many tv shows and

529
00:17:48,230 --> 00:17:46,559
you're just as in his own work and his

530
00:17:49,110 --> 00:17:48,240
masonic lectures are amazing too you

531
00:17:50,310 --> 00:17:49,120
know there's a couple of them online if

532
00:17:51,590 --> 00:17:50,320
you go look for them but

533
00:17:53,510 --> 00:17:51,600
i was like scott where's the connection

534
00:17:55,990 --> 00:17:53,520
man i know i know it's here i know it's

535
00:17:57,830 --> 00:17:56,000
there you know i know it's in somewhere

536
00:17:58,789 --> 00:17:57,840
in all these things and

537
00:18:03,029 --> 00:17:58,799
um

538
00:18:05,830 --> 00:18:03,039
you know the symbology and it and it

539
00:18:07,830 --> 00:18:05,840
always goes back to um you know esoteric

540
00:18:09,029 --> 00:18:07,840
uh i really i really had a small

541
00:18:11,350 --> 00:18:09,039
understanding of esoteric knowledge

542
00:18:13,190 --> 00:18:11,360
before i became a mason and

543
00:18:14,630 --> 00:18:13,200
and what i did is basically open up the

544
00:18:16,070 --> 00:18:14,640
door for me to do more research and kind

545
00:18:17,669 --> 00:18:16,080
of get a

546
00:18:19,590 --> 00:18:17,679
do my own research on a broader

547
00:18:20,710 --> 00:18:19,600
understanding of how that plays into

548
00:18:22,710 --> 00:18:20,720
everyday life

549
00:18:25,909 --> 00:18:22,720
and the in uh let me let me try to come

550
00:18:27,430 --> 00:18:25,919
up with a way to explain this well

551
00:18:29,510 --> 00:18:27,440
you know after i became a freemason i

552
00:18:30,710 --> 00:18:29,520
started noticing uh symbols

553
00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:30,720
and things on buildings that i never

554
00:18:34,390 --> 00:18:32,320
noticed before right like cornerstones

555
00:18:35,669 --> 00:18:34,400
are a masonic thing where you um for a

556
00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:35,679
foundation of a building you're building

557
00:18:40,390 --> 00:18:37,840
a new building uh washington actually

558
00:18:41,590 --> 00:18:40,400
laid the foundation for uh

559
00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:41,600
the white house you know the capitol

560
00:18:45,029 --> 00:18:43,200
building like it's just a big ceremony

561
00:18:47,990 --> 00:18:45,039
that masons do it's it's a big thing and

562
00:18:49,510 --> 00:18:48,000
you put this giant cornerstone

563
00:18:51,510 --> 00:18:49,520
of the building in and yeah it's a big

564
00:18:53,669 --> 00:18:51,520
ceremony and it's you know

565
00:18:55,190 --> 00:18:53,679
actually engraved you know and a lot of

566
00:18:57,190 --> 00:18:55,200
times those are actually time capsules

567
00:18:58,710 --> 00:18:57,200
as well so if that was 1862 or whatever

568
00:18:59,669 --> 00:18:58,720
there's big giant time capsule stuff

569
00:19:01,430 --> 00:18:59,679
like that

570
00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:01,440
and um

571
00:19:06,310 --> 00:19:03,520
the year that um it's

572
00:19:07,190 --> 00:19:06,320
anna lucas for masonry so it's 4 000

573
00:19:08,789 --> 00:19:07,200
years

574
00:19:11,029 --> 00:19:08,799
ahead of what our current year is right

575
00:19:13,830 --> 00:19:11,039
so if you if right now it's

576
00:19:15,510 --> 00:19:13,840
what is it uh six twenty two six six six

577
00:19:17,029 --> 00:19:15,520
zero two two so if we put a corner stone

578
00:19:18,150 --> 00:19:17,039
in a building would put six zero two two

579
00:19:20,230 --> 00:19:18,160
and stamp that on there and then we'd

580
00:19:22,230 --> 00:19:20,240
have the actual date or whatever but

581
00:19:23,830 --> 00:19:22,240
um you know i walked by those my entire

582
00:19:24,789 --> 00:19:23,840
life and they're everywhere if you start

583
00:19:26,630 --> 00:19:24,799
looking for them they're right there

584
00:19:28,070 --> 00:19:26,640
boom boom boom they're everywhere right

585
00:19:29,350 --> 00:19:28,080
so things like that and you're like well

586
00:19:30,789 --> 00:19:29,360
that's

587
00:19:31,909 --> 00:19:30,799
interesting i didn't know that you know

588
00:19:33,190 --> 00:19:31,919
and then you're the square encompass you

589
00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:33,200
know the masonic squaring compass that's

590
00:19:35,510 --> 00:19:34,480
kind of everywhere too it's built in the

591
00:19:37,750 --> 00:19:35,520
streets

592
00:19:39,590 --> 00:19:37,760
you know sandusky ohio which is not too

593
00:19:41,909 --> 00:19:39,600
far from me the whole entire

594
00:19:43,510 --> 00:19:41,919
um downtown area is a square encompass

595
00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:43,520
because the uh the guy who's a street

596
00:19:46,950 --> 00:19:44,480
planner

597
00:19:49,350 --> 00:19:46,960
was was a mason and he laid it out and

598
00:19:51,430 --> 00:19:49,360
so the middle of the town is uh right in

599
00:19:53,830 --> 00:19:51,440
the dead center of it is the capital or

600
00:19:55,669 --> 00:19:53,840
the or the you know the courthouse and

601
00:19:57,669 --> 00:19:55,679
all that and then everything else is a

602
00:19:58,630 --> 00:19:57,679
square encompass that are there so like

603
00:20:00,310 --> 00:19:58,640
there's all these symbols that are

604
00:20:01,909 --> 00:20:00,320
hidden there and i'm thinking to myself

605
00:20:03,430 --> 00:20:01,919
well like if that's possible that

606
00:20:05,110 --> 00:20:03,440
anything's possible right i mean because

607
00:20:06,390 --> 00:20:05,120
like if it's been in front of your

608
00:20:07,590 --> 00:20:06,400
entire life and it only took this

609
00:20:09,430 --> 00:20:07,600
experience that i went through to kind

610
00:20:11,669 --> 00:20:09,440
of like wake me up to see it

611
00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:11,679
then what are ufos right i mean is it

612
00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:13,280
the same thing are ufos just a symbol

613
00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:14,960
that have always been there or symbol of

614
00:20:18,390 --> 00:20:16,240
our subconscious or unconscious or

615
00:20:20,870 --> 00:20:18,400
whatever that that

616
00:20:22,870 --> 00:20:20,880
we walk by on a regular basis and

617
00:20:24,149 --> 00:20:22,880
attribute it to nothing or something

618
00:20:25,830 --> 00:20:24,159
else so

619
00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:25,840
i think those things were the kind of my

620
00:20:30,149 --> 00:20:28,480
catalyst for me to kind of go

621
00:20:32,549 --> 00:20:30,159
looking deeper into everything that i

622
00:20:34,390 --> 00:20:32,559
already had already kind of looked into

623
00:20:35,990 --> 00:20:34,400
it was a beautiful tie-in at the end i'm

624
00:20:38,310 --> 00:20:36,000
sorry go ahead kev that was a beautiful

625
00:20:40,710 --> 00:20:38,320
title no it's not making sense just let

626
00:20:43,669 --> 00:20:40,720
me know no no actually you you mentioned

627
00:20:46,789 --> 00:20:43,679
the uh the shapes the the compass um

628
00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:46,799
that sacred geometry right um yeah

629
00:20:50,549 --> 00:20:48,799
basically i mean the sacred geometry

630
00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:50,559
those are the basic patterns of of

631
00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:52,799
existence in in in the universe well at

632
00:20:56,470 --> 00:20:54,880
least this universe if you believe in

633
00:20:58,630 --> 00:20:56,480
that

634
00:21:00,630 --> 00:20:58,640
right um so do you have any knowledge of

635
00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:00,640
maybe how this concept has been bridged

636
00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:02,480
into the ufo phenomenon i'm like i'm

637
00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:04,400
having trouble with the

638
00:21:08,789 --> 00:21:06,240
yeah i haven't trouble with that one

639
00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:08,799
like maybe procession i can see the

640
00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:10,480
stars and

641
00:21:13,430 --> 00:21:11,440
but

642
00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:13,440
yeah

643
00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:14,320
so

644
00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:18,799
sacred geometry in terms of how harvard

645
00:21:23,430 --> 00:21:19,760
has it

646
00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:23,440
phenomenon yet

647
00:21:27,430 --> 00:21:25,280
do you know of any

648
00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:27,440
bridge between the geometry of the

649
00:21:33,430 --> 00:21:30,799
masonic order and and ufos yeah into in

650
00:21:38,070 --> 00:21:33,440
the phenomenon has it have those two

651
00:21:42,950 --> 00:21:40,630
not specific like i've never seen like a

652
00:21:45,110 --> 00:21:42,960
square encompass crop

653
00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:45,120
you circle i guess yeah you know what i

654
00:21:48,070 --> 00:21:46,880
mean like yeah no i mean i have i

655
00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:48,080
haven't seen that i mean that would be

656
00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:49,679
super rad if it was there's one in des

657
00:21:52,710 --> 00:21:51,280
moines it's just outside of des moines

658
00:21:55,909 --> 00:21:52,720
john

659
00:21:58,870 --> 00:21:57,750
i was going to sheboygan next i somebody

660
00:22:01,669 --> 00:21:58,880
told me wrong

661
00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:01,679
god no yeah no i mean i i don't know i

662
00:22:05,350 --> 00:22:02,880
mean there's there's symbology and

663
00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:05,360
everything and yeah you know i mean i've

664
00:22:07,830 --> 00:22:06,480
sat through lectures with brothers that

665
00:22:09,830 --> 00:22:07,840
don't take her geometry lectures that'll

666
00:22:12,149 --> 00:22:09,840
blow your mind right and they tie it

667
00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:12,159
into masonry in a in a way through

668
00:22:15,029 --> 00:22:13,919
symbols and you know basically the core

669
00:22:16,470 --> 00:22:15,039
of the universe and you know the

670
00:22:17,990 --> 00:22:16,480
fibonacci sequence and you know

671
00:22:20,310 --> 00:22:18,000
everything you know that all lines up

672
00:22:22,230 --> 00:22:20,320
the golden ratio and all that stuff but

673
00:22:23,669 --> 00:22:22,240
you know you know i'm not sitting in the

674
00:22:25,590 --> 00:22:23,679
we're not sitting in lodge going yeah

675
00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:25,600
this is the golden ratio lecture you

676
00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:28,000
know i mean it's it's not so

677
00:22:31,270 --> 00:22:29,600
it's kind of hard to explain but masonry

678
00:22:33,750 --> 00:22:31,280
you go through three degrees right and

679
00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:33,760
you go through three ceremonies rituals

680
00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:35,600
right through each degree yeah energy

681
00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:38,720
apprentice fellowcraft master mason

682
00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:41,600
and through those things you experience

683
00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:44,960
the degrees and um basically

684
00:22:49,110 --> 00:22:47,760
you regurgitate those degrees back to ex

685
00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:49,120
to be

686
00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:50,960
um

687
00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:52,400
elevated to the next degree right so you

688
00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:54,320
go through the first degree and all this

689
00:22:57,590 --> 00:22:55,600
stuff happens to you and then you have

690
00:22:59,110 --> 00:22:57,600
to like interpret what happens to you

691
00:23:00,710 --> 00:22:59,120
and repeat it

692
00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:00,720
precisely the way that it needs to be

693
00:23:05,669 --> 00:23:03,360
repeated to the rest of the lodge and

694
00:23:07,590 --> 00:23:05,679
everybody goes okay cool you got it you

695
00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:07,600
can pass to the next degree right so

696
00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:09,520
that happens in succession right three

697
00:23:13,590 --> 00:23:10,320
times

698
00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:13,600
and um it's not until really

699
00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:15,360
you're outside of that and you're in

700
00:23:18,149 --> 00:23:16,480
your master base and you're sitting on

701
00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:18,159
the sidelines and watching somebody else

702
00:23:20,549 --> 00:23:19,520
go through it

703
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:20,559
that

704
00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:22,559
you visually recognize all of these

705
00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:23,760
different patterns and these different

706
00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:25,360
things that are going on

707
00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:26,400
and

708
00:23:32,470 --> 00:23:30,080
um you can definitely dig into it as far

709
00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:32,480
as you want but basically it's like

710
00:23:37,510 --> 00:23:34,880
symbology hidden in allegory

711
00:23:39,830 --> 00:23:37,520
and uh you know um

712
00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:39,840
basically ritual right so there's a lot

713
00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:43,279
of like i said um you know i i was um in

714
00:23:47,269 --> 00:23:46,080
shadows of your mind uh magazine um last

715
00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:47,279
issue and that was great dave's an

716
00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:48,400
awesome guy if you guys haven't read

717
00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:50,640
shadows your my magazine it's amazing

718
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:53,200
dave does all that himself right and he

719
00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:54,480
he had a little bit of help in this last

720
00:23:57,110 --> 00:23:55,360
one but

721
00:23:58,470 --> 00:23:57,120
he uh

722
00:24:00,549 --> 00:23:58,480
you know he

723
00:24:01,830 --> 00:24:00,559
he he put that in there in in when you

724
00:24:03,190 --> 00:24:01,840
know dave and i talked for like two and

725
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:03,200
a half hours and he got a bunch of stuff

726
00:24:06,070 --> 00:24:04,320
and put up and i just let him run with

727
00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:06,080
it because he was he's great but one of

728
00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:07,360
the quotes i put on there is like some

729
00:24:10,230 --> 00:24:08,640
some people become masons and it just

730
00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:10,240
goes right over their heads

731
00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:12,400
and i meant that in the most loving way

732
00:24:16,149 --> 00:24:14,080
where it's like okay cool like you know

733
00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:16,159
you get the foundation of of things you

734
00:24:18,549 --> 00:24:17,279
know you kind of get the understanding

735
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:18,559
of what's going on and you know what

736
00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:19,679
happened to you

737
00:24:23,750 --> 00:24:21,840
and maybe that's it and other guys like

738
00:24:26,710 --> 00:24:23,760
me like i go right to the bookshelf that

739
00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:26,720
nobody's touched forever you know and i

740
00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:28,320
unlock it and i'm like

741
00:24:31,269 --> 00:24:30,240
blowing off books and i'm i'm that guy

742
00:24:32,549 --> 00:24:31,279
right and i'm going through like a whole

743
00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:32,559
bunch of stuff and i'm asking the guys

744
00:24:36,710 --> 00:24:34,080
that have been here for literally the

745
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:36,720
guy who's like 98 going okay what does

746
00:24:39,909 --> 00:24:38,240
this mean to you and it's cool because

747
00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:39,919
you can have that conversation and and

748
00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:41,120
you can interpret it in a billion

749
00:24:44,789 --> 00:24:42,640
different ways right or you can just be

750
00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:44,799
like i got the ring and now i can go to

751
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:47,840
the pancake breakfast

752
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:49,520
you know like there's i mean so there's

753
00:24:51,830 --> 00:24:50,960
a whole bunch of different ways that

754
00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:51,840
that

755
00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:54,960
right

756
00:24:58,070 --> 00:24:56,320
i've met some masons that are just

757
00:24:59,590 --> 00:24:58,080
amazing you know jamie paul lamb is

758
00:25:01,909 --> 00:24:59,600
another brother of mine that you know it

759
00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:01,919
was it's not my show we did a

760
00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:03,520
lecture and he's actually a fratter you

761
00:25:07,350 --> 00:25:05,039
know he's um uh

762
00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:07,360
rosie cruisian as well so it's uh rosie

763
00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:09,039
christian part of um

764
00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:10,720
sricf

765
00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:12,720
it's a branch of uh

766
00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:15,440
masonry and anyways uh jimmy jamie's

767
00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:17,120
amazing he's written three books he's an

768
00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:19,360
amazing lecturer he's way into western

769
00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:21,440
esotericism like deep into it you know

770
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:22,799
he's he studies

771
00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:24,240
all kinds of stuff you know we talked

772
00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:25,440
about

773
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:27,360
the head of baphomet for like two hours

774
00:25:31,510 --> 00:25:29,360
one night

775
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:31,520
you know like so he and you know he's

776
00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:33,600
amazing he's a great guy so like i said

777
00:25:36,149 --> 00:25:34,880
but there's other guys that are just

778
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:36,159
like

779
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:38,080
into it for the you know the fraternity

780
00:25:41,269 --> 00:25:39,600
and the camaraderie and that's cool too

781
00:25:42,789 --> 00:25:41,279
and i'm not saying that's not a bad

782
00:25:44,390 --> 00:25:42,799
thing i'm just i'm just saying there's

783
00:25:46,149 --> 00:25:44,400
like that

784
00:25:47,909 --> 00:25:46,159
you can find your own way

785
00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:47,919
it's a two-year-old adventure there it's

786
00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:49,360
it's a choose your own adventure route

787
00:25:53,269 --> 00:25:51,200
you know right it's like that game

788
00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:53,279
you're talking about with ai yeah you

789
00:25:56,789 --> 00:25:54,880
can you can make it up yourself

790
00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:56,799
it would be really robotic if everybody

791
00:26:00,549 --> 00:25:58,080
was the same

792
00:26:03,029 --> 00:26:00,559
you know yeah any fun if you don't have

793
00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:03,039
the differing personalities

794
00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:04,240
and it's cool though because we're all

795
00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:05,760
we all really respect each other and

796
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:06,960
appreciate each other and love each

797
00:26:10,230 --> 00:26:08,880
other to let you to let you have your

798
00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:10,240
own personalities you know i'm sure

799
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:11,279
there's some there's some people that

800
00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:13,679
are like oh yeah you know whatever

801
00:26:16,710 --> 00:26:14,960
and you know when i first started out i

802
00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:16,720
was kind of nervous a little bit and

803
00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:18,080
that's why i put like the big disclaimer

804
00:26:21,990 --> 00:26:19,679
like hey you know whatever i'm saying is

805
00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:22,000
not what any appendant body any masonic

806
00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:23,600
body is saying like i'm not speaking for

807
00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:24,880
any appended body this is my own

808
00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:27,600
personal opinion this is just me you

809
00:26:31,110 --> 00:26:29,200
know this is just what i am and honestly

810
00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:31,120
when i got into it i was you know

811
00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:32,640
ian doley i think you see him in the

812
00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:35,520
chat thank god for hit that guy

813
00:26:39,029 --> 00:26:36,960
what's up james

814
00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:39,039
that's my dude right james how are you

815
00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:40,720
doing brother apparently he just needed

816
00:26:44,789 --> 00:26:42,640
to know about the pancake breakfast so

817
00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:44,799
he did i'm sorry man i'll get you in

818
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:46,880
next time you come in early

819
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:49,679
you can help me flip them

820
00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:51,520
but that's he's the guy who reached out

821
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:52,799
to me was like dude you should do this

822
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:54,240
and i'm like no

823
00:26:57,430 --> 00:26:55,600
it's like yeah you should do it i'm like

824
00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:57,440
nah man i'm i don't want to get put

825
00:27:00,710 --> 00:26:58,799
packed in the back of a van and

826
00:27:02,390 --> 00:27:00,720
disappear i got a family and [\h__\h] i

827
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:02,400
don't want to but you know he was really

828
00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:03,760
really amazing and i wouldn't be here

829
00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:06,480
without james thank you man he's a great

830
00:27:09,750 --> 00:27:07,600
dude and

831
00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:09,760
amazing you know um

832
00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:11,279
and he kind of was like yeah just do it

833
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:13,360
you know um and that's what you know

834
00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:14,240
made me

835
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:16,240
kind of take the leap you know uh i did

836
00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:18,880
it and

837
00:27:22,630 --> 00:27:21,279
with the fact that i knew i wasn't gonna

838
00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:22,640
i wasn't gonna make everybody happy but

839
00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:24,559
the same time if they were pissed off

840
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:26,000
they'd come to me and let me know right

841
00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:27,760
that's how it works the same way i hope

842
00:27:31,909 --> 00:27:29,760
the government comes and tells me

843
00:27:34,389 --> 00:27:31,919
and don't shoot beams at my head or

844
00:27:35,110 --> 00:27:34,399
fake abduct me or whatever

845
00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:35,120
oh

846
00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:37,120
you know that that you've just given us

847
00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:39,279
some food for thought uh james is the

848
00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:41,440
goat by the way but uh somebody else

849
00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:44,159
that you know someday she might be the

850
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:46,080
goat and take over the mantle from james

851
00:27:52,630 --> 00:27:48,490
and that's deb

852
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:54,710
a week 10 days how long is this gonna

853
00:27:58,230 --> 00:27:56,480
take i'm just i'm just happy to be

854
00:28:01,350 --> 00:27:58,240
really good friends with james james is

855
00:28:06,070 --> 00:28:03,110
like i um i still gotta figure james one

856
00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:06,080
day i gotta do like a james like

857
00:28:10,710 --> 00:28:08,960
what i mean

858
00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:10,720
i don't i don't know james like i've

859
00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:13,200
never seen james be anybody james knows

860
00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:15,120
everybody he's like

861
00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:16,880
he's like the godfather of everything

862
00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:18,159
you know what i mean like all roads lead

863
00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:20,399
to james man i know can you play that

864
00:28:24,549 --> 00:28:22,000
music from the godfather name i'm just

865
00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:27,350
and i i feel like once you call me

866
00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:28,399
i feel like he's going to call me over

867
00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:29,840
at his house and he's like okay listen

868
00:28:35,269 --> 00:28:32,159
you come to me asking a favor

869
00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:36,789
he's like you gotta go you gotta go on

870
00:28:41,830 --> 00:28:39,279
tour with greer i'll be i'll be enzo the

871
00:28:47,190 --> 00:28:41,840
baker if there's a problem i help you

872
00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:48,470
i'm sorry

873
00:28:53,909 --> 00:28:52,480
just yeah it's true though it's true one

874
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:53,919
day we're gonna be doing a ce5 and

875
00:28:57,909 --> 00:28:56,320
something's gonna happen

876
00:29:00,230 --> 00:28:57,919
i i'm wait i'm doing that and waiting

877
00:29:02,149 --> 00:29:00,240
for james to appear that's what i yeah

878
00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:02,159
yeah the next time you do a ce5 james is

879
00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:03,360
going to show up yeah it's going to be

880
00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:04,880
indoley he's going to be like boom

881
00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:07,200
that's my practice he's like what's up

882
00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:09,279
how much you bench

883
00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:10,480
hey

884
00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:12,320
[Applause]

885
00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:14,799
you know but for my trip home in august

886
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:17,440
nate uh james said i hope we get to see

887
00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:20,000
each other so hope means it's not zero

888
00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:22,159
percent right james we're we're above

889
00:29:25,909 --> 00:29:24,240
zero at this point just don't trust him

890
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:25,919
if he says you guys have to remote view

891
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:26,650
it

892
00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:30,000
[Laughter]

893
00:29:33,590 --> 00:29:32,000
go ahead debs let me get this off before

894
00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:33,600
we just banter for the next 30 minutes

895
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:35,760
okay i'm sorry i'm sorry no we're having

896
00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:38,240
fun i'm gonna go deep and serious so

897
00:29:43,510 --> 00:29:41,360
take give me a minute to set it up okay

898
00:29:46,710 --> 00:29:43,520
actually some deep breathing john

899
00:29:49,190 --> 00:29:46,720
so i went down the

900
00:29:51,269 --> 00:29:49,200
freemason research rabbit hole of course

901
00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:51,279
to prepare for today and

902
00:29:55,990 --> 00:29:53,440
at the heart of it seems to be the

903
00:29:59,669 --> 00:29:56,000
temple of king solomon

904
00:30:02,310 --> 00:29:59,679
and what i understand is that the temple

905
00:30:04,310 --> 00:30:02,320
supposedly well they said

906
00:30:08,710 --> 00:30:04,320
was designed with

907
00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:08,720
ritual in mind with structure in mind

908
00:30:13,029 --> 00:30:11,200
in a very specific way to protect the

909
00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:13,039
covenant

910
00:30:17,029 --> 00:30:13,919
now

911
00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:17,039
my understanding is that they honored

912
00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:18,559
the builder

913
00:30:24,310 --> 00:30:20,640
who helped create the temple that

914
00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:24,320
protects the sacred text and secrets

915
00:30:30,149 --> 00:30:26,960
is that the crux of what freemasons are

916
00:30:34,830 --> 00:30:30,159
about creating the ritual and the

917
00:30:38,149 --> 00:30:34,840
structure to protect the sacred and

918
00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:38,159
secrets hmm

919
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:40,480
well the building of king solomon's

920
00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:41,440
temple

921
00:30:48,549 --> 00:30:44,080
was directed by god

922
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:48,559
supposedly the plans the actual

923
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:50,720
structure right the

924
00:30:56,070 --> 00:30:53,440
layout was all

925
00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:56,080
supposedly created as an instrument to

926
00:31:00,789 --> 00:30:56,799
be

927
00:31:03,269 --> 00:31:00,799
a mirror representation of the above

928
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:03,279
as above so below right so

929
00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:07,039
um the entire layout

930
00:31:12,070 --> 00:31:10,240
was created for that purpose

931
00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:12,080
in all

932
00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:14,080
modern masonic lodges

933
00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:19,110
in the same fashion

934
00:31:23,029 --> 00:31:20,399
in the lodge room

935
00:31:25,350 --> 00:31:23,039
predominantly not the entire

936
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:25,360
temple right the entire massive temple

937
00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:26,880
so

938
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:29,440
it's to reflect the

939
00:31:34,789 --> 00:31:32,880
the beauty and glory of above right so

940
00:31:36,149 --> 00:31:34,799
you know that that falls into and a lot

941
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:36,159
of freemasons don't even you know don't

942
00:31:39,669 --> 00:31:37,760
know the hermetic principle as above so

943
00:31:41,830 --> 00:31:39,679
below as well so i mean

944
00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:41,840
you know with the black and white tiled

945
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:43,600
checkerboard as the floor you know all

946
00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:45,039
these things like that we're all

947
00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:48,880
supposedly laid down and um king solomon

948
00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:51,120
um

949
00:31:57,430 --> 00:31:54,399
this temple was commissioned by

950
00:31:59,750 --> 00:31:57,440
uh or the bill the

951
00:32:03,110 --> 00:31:59,760
head mason in charge of building that

952
00:32:06,310 --> 00:32:03,120
was um hiram abiff

953
00:32:09,990 --> 00:32:06,320
and that goes into a whole other

954
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:12,389
it goes into a whole other allegory and

955
00:32:16,870 --> 00:32:15,120
basically um

956
00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:16,880
story that you can you can pretty much

957
00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:18,880
research i'm sure it's all out there

958
00:32:23,669 --> 00:32:21,360
um but it's part of uh

959
00:32:25,669 --> 00:32:23,679
the third degree of masonry

960
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:25,679
so um

961
00:32:28,630 --> 00:32:27,760
that is

962
00:32:46,470 --> 00:32:28,640
a

963
00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:46,480
perfect cube

964
00:32:51,430 --> 00:32:49,120
and that is basically an allegory

965
00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:51,440
for how you are supposed to live your

966
00:32:54,830 --> 00:32:53,760
life you start out with a you know as a

967
00:32:57,909 --> 00:32:54,840
rough kind

968
00:32:59,029 --> 00:32:57,919
of uh

969
00:33:00,310 --> 00:32:59,039
you know you're still learning things

970
00:33:02,310 --> 00:33:00,320
like that but as you go you learn

971
00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:02,320
lessons you you gain from life

972
00:33:06,070 --> 00:33:04,960
experiences you learn from older

973
00:33:11,110 --> 00:33:06,080
you know

974
00:33:12,310 --> 00:33:11,120
that help you shape yourself and that's

975
00:33:13,990 --> 00:33:12,320
kind of what the core masonry is all

976
00:33:15,509 --> 00:33:14,000
about is making good men great you know

977
00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:15,519
making good men better you know those

978
00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:16,960
kind of things is like basically gives

979
00:33:20,149 --> 00:33:18,240
you the tools

980
00:33:21,669 --> 00:33:20,159
to make yourself a better person better

981
00:33:24,310 --> 00:33:21,679
man a better human a better leader a

982
00:33:25,669 --> 00:33:24,320
better person to say

983
00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:25,679
hey there's there's something wrong here

984
00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:27,440
i want to fix it hey there's people here

985
00:33:31,269 --> 00:33:29,600
that could be helped how can i help them

986
00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:31,279
and that's kind of what masonry does all

987
00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:33,120
across the board it makes you a better

988
00:33:37,509 --> 00:33:35,440
person yourself so that you can go

989
00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:37,519
then and make everything else better

990
00:33:41,830 --> 00:33:40,080
that you see that you need to and

991
00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:41,840
that's kind of the allegory and the

992
00:33:44,870 --> 00:33:43,360
things behind that and those are the

993
00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:44,880
lessons that they kind of teach you

994
00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:46,720
along the way so

995
00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:48,240
it's it's kind of neat i mean i always

996
00:33:50,789 --> 00:33:49,279
felt that as

997
00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:50,799
before but it's kind of neat to be

998
00:33:55,029 --> 00:33:52,480
tasked with that to be like you know you

999
00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:55,039
shouldn't let that person sit there and

1000
00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:57,519
be in need when you can help them right

1001
00:34:00,310 --> 00:33:59,039
you shouldn't you should if you see

1002
00:34:02,070 --> 00:34:00,320
something that you need to fix you

1003
00:34:03,350 --> 00:34:02,080
should fix it you know you should help

1004
00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:03,360
other people help you fix it you should

1005
00:34:06,549 --> 00:34:04,720
make it better

1006
00:34:08,550 --> 00:34:06,559
and that's kind of like the core of

1007
00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:08,560
masonry is like look

1008
00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:11,200
you can make yourself better um

1009
00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:12,800
and in doing so help the whole entire

1010
00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:15,760
world which is awesome

1011
00:34:21,030 --> 00:34:18,240
okay so you're saying the crux is more

1012
00:34:23,270 --> 00:34:21,040
so about building up and

1013
00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:23,280
making things better because of that

1014
00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:25,839
that's kind of the underlying theme but

1015
00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:28,000
you know i asked because everyone thinks

1016
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:29,520
freemasons have

1017
00:34:34,149 --> 00:34:31,760
you know secret texts that they're

1018
00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:34,159
hiding and protecting and that's why you

1019
00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:36,720
know that whole parallel came to mind

1020
00:34:40,869 --> 00:34:38,800
with the building being designed to

1021
00:34:43,349 --> 00:34:40,879
protect the covenant and so on and so

1022
00:34:46,069 --> 00:34:44,629
there's other

1023
00:34:47,909 --> 00:34:46,079
there's a there's three degrees in

1024
00:34:48,790 --> 00:34:47,919
freemasonry never said that's the

1025
00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:48,800
highest score you can get as a

1026
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:50,320
mastermind after that

1027
00:34:53,349 --> 00:34:51,520
there's a pending bodies you have the

1028
00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:53,359
york right the scottish rite

1029
00:34:57,030 --> 00:34:55,040
the um

1030
00:34:58,950 --> 00:34:57,040
knights templar you have you know what

1031
00:35:00,310 --> 00:34:58,960
this yeah resections it get all these

1032
00:35:01,990 --> 00:35:00,320
other appended bodies but what they

1033
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:02,000
always say is the three degrees of the

1034
00:35:06,630 --> 00:35:04,560
core three main degrees of masonry right

1035
00:35:08,470 --> 00:35:06,640
um there's nothing higher than that

1036
00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:08,480
so after throughout the years there was

1037
00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:10,160
other stories and allegories they put in

1038
00:35:14,790 --> 00:35:11,920
and created different bodies that still

1039
00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:14,800
had good morals and historical

1040
00:35:18,390 --> 00:35:16,560
narratives and and truths that were

1041
00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:18,400
built into them

1042
00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:19,760
so

1043
00:35:27,990 --> 00:35:26,230
potentially

1044
00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:28,000
and some of them don't

1045
00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:29,440
you know so it's it's one of those

1046
00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:30,640
things where

1047
00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:33,040
you know um is it another allegory is it

1048
00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:35,680
another is it a little literal

1049
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:38,720
um retelling of a story i mean

1050
00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:40,000
i've seen the arc of the government like

1051
00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:42,400
four times

1052
00:35:49,430 --> 00:35:44,800
but it's you know made out of plywood

1053
00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:50,870
you know

1054
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:52,400
but who's to say what's in it or what

1055
00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:54,160
was in it i mean you know i mean it's

1056
00:35:57,750 --> 00:35:56,000
it's kind of one of those things

1057
00:35:59,349 --> 00:35:57,760
it's a good price for krylon because the

1058
00:36:01,030 --> 00:35:59,359
rust-oleum

1059
00:36:02,950 --> 00:36:01,040
you never see it on sale so you never

1060
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:02,960
see it on sale thank you you're right

1061
00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:04,240
about that and you know it's got the

1062
00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:06,880
primer in it too right through it makes

1063
00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:09,119
it a little pricey uh

1064
00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:10,320
anyway

1065
00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:11,200
so

1066
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:13,520
uh i'd like to shift gears we're going

1067
00:36:18,550 --> 00:36:16,079
into uh fourth gear now unfortunately i

1068
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:18,560
didn't pay enough for a five speed but

1069
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:23,109
but i felt like i ran i felt like that

1070
00:36:26,620 --> 00:36:24,720
was a big politician answer i felt like

1071
00:36:28,630 --> 00:36:26,630
it was harry reid on that one

1072
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:28,640
[Laughter]

1073
00:36:32,710 --> 00:36:30,000
oh you know

1074
00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:32,720
jasha said harry reid has yet yet he has

1075
00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:34,880
yet to utter his last word so i can't

1076
00:36:39,109 --> 00:36:36,720
wait to hear what that might be and and

1077
00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:39,119
deb also has some theories on what

1078
00:36:43,349 --> 00:36:40,880
groups that he may have been part of but

1079
00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:43,359
um for now what i want to add mormons he

1080
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:44,880
was a mormon right

1081
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:47,040
yeah but there's some other groups uh

1082
00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:49,680
and i'll let uh deb expand on that i

1083
00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:51,839
don't want to steal her thunder

1084
00:36:55,750 --> 00:36:54,720
um and yeah james james

1085
00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:55,760
i i

1086
00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:58,000
i hear what you feel it

1087
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:59,119
i hear what we were talking about

1088
00:37:02,550 --> 00:37:00,400
degrees

1089
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:02,560
was congress it's uh

1090
00:37:08,069 --> 00:37:05,440
congress oh yeah that was one of them

1091
00:37:10,390 --> 00:37:08,079
the raven aviary is what she thinks he

1092
00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:10,400
was part of the raven aviary

1093
00:37:15,589 --> 00:37:11,280
so

1094
00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:16,710
i knew

1095
00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:22,960
you and uh thank you

1096
00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:23,760
um

1097
00:37:26,950 --> 00:37:24,480
so

1098
00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:26,960
but last time you and i spoke uh we i

1099
00:37:30,310 --> 00:37:29,040
think we had a stream yard and we just

1100
00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:30,320
talked about

1101
00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:31,839
the connections me and you and deb we

1102
00:37:35,430 --> 00:37:34,480
were just just chatting was deb there

1103
00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:35,440
yeah

1104
00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:37,839
okay i don't remember that

1105
00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:39,200
that's the only reason i'm here and i

1106
00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:40,800
love you dj but

1107
00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:42,880
oh well awesome thank you dad for

1108
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:45,200
getting him to come on

1109
00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:46,720
that's the reason we're all here thanks

1110
00:37:51,750 --> 00:37:49,680
for remembering me dj that's cool

1111
00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:51,760
i'm so sorry

1112
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:53,520
i'm just teasing you it was a lot of

1113
00:37:59,910 --> 00:37:57,920
glasses of wine to go okay so um anyway

1114
00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:59,920
you were talking about the cross-section

1115
00:38:03,670 --> 00:38:01,200
between

1116
00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:03,680
and i had trouble with this and so i i

1117
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:05,119
think you might be able to help me out

1118
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:06,000
here

1119
00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:08,160
is between

1120
00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:10,320
spirits what i

1121
00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:12,320
would think of as ghosts

1122
00:38:18,550 --> 00:38:14,720
that haunt places

1123
00:38:20,230 --> 00:38:18,560
and the phenomenon that we see as uaps

1124
00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:20,240
or ufos

1125
00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:23,440
and you feel a connection

1126
00:38:26,630 --> 00:38:25,280
between those two

1127
00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:26,640
things

1128
00:38:29,109 --> 00:38:27,920
so

1129
00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:29,119
okay please

1130
00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:32,480
yeah i mean if just read um skinwalkers

1131
00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:34,480
at the pentagon

1132
00:38:37,990 --> 00:38:36,320
i mean that that'll tell you right there

1133
00:38:39,349 --> 00:38:38,000
um

1134
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:39,359
i can't remember who else did this as

1135
00:38:43,829 --> 00:38:41,200
well but somebody else recently just put

1136
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:43,839
out you know the overlay of

1137
00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:46,480
the ufo sighting map and like the the

1138
00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:47,920
the um

1139
00:38:51,270 --> 00:38:49,440
uh

1140
00:38:53,109 --> 00:38:51,280
poltergeist or whatever you know like

1141
00:38:54,069 --> 00:38:53,119
the ghost sighting map or whatever it is

1142
00:38:54,950 --> 00:38:54,079
and

1143
00:38:56,470 --> 00:38:54,960
um

1144
00:38:59,510 --> 00:38:56,480
i'm actually writing a couple books

1145
00:39:01,910 --> 00:38:59,520
right now believe it or not two of them

1146
00:39:03,589 --> 00:39:01,920
yeah but not one where vamp where jesus

1147
00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:03,599
is a vampire and nathan is but anyway

1148
00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:06,160
that's beside you oh better no but that

1149
00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:07,760
sounds red i'll read the whole different

1150
00:39:10,069 --> 00:39:08,560
show

1151
00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:10,079
yeah yeah yeah

1152
00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:10,880
dude

1153
00:39:23,829 --> 00:39:22,550
oh man i want to make this de long is

1154
00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:23,839
going to put out his movie and ours is

1155
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:35,190
there's a collaboration has just been

1156
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:36,880
put together this is almost like when

1157
00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:38,960
nathan met exo academia for the first

1158
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:40,640
time

1159
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:43,040
wow he showed up and jesus became a

1160
00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:45,520
vampire yeah that's amazing weird things

1161
00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:47,520
happen man i get it you guys are in

1162
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:49,040
north carolina i don't want to ask

1163
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:50,640
anything about blood cells you got the

1164
00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:53,119
[\h__\h] bases down there the weird stuff

1165
00:39:57,510 --> 00:39:55,440
it is i love it and micah hanks thought

1166
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:57,520
he was okay we were coordinating from

1167
00:40:01,030 --> 00:39:59,359
micah hanks he's and and we were dying

1168
00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:01,040
to get him on the show

1169
00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:03,280
and he messaged today hey am i on at

1170
00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:04,960
nine tonight i'm like wait i thought you

1171
00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:06,880
were in brazil and we were supposed to

1172
00:40:10,550 --> 00:40:08,319
set a date so that would have been

1173
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:10,560
ironic because we believe that nathan

1174
00:40:16,390 --> 00:40:13,920
exod x or academia and micah hanks are

1175
00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:16,400
neighbors essentially so i think they're

1176
00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:17,680
the same person i've never seen all

1177
00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:19,440
three of them it's true

1178
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:20,880
nathan can you prove it do you have

1179
00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:24,710
i'm sorry

1180
00:40:29,030 --> 00:40:26,720
he can't he can't prove this he's doing

1181
00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:29,040
both voices on liminal fringe i know

1182
00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:30,160
that's what i'm saying

1183
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:31,440
he's just got like a little tweak thing

1184
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:34,480
he just like hits it up on the side

1185
00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:36,240
pitch shifted a little bit

1186
00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:38,800
this is ridiculous man we should be pexo

1187
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:40,400
i'm going to send you a check after the

1188
00:40:44,069 --> 00:40:42,160
show this is just too good

1189
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:44,079
uh i forgot the question was there a

1190
00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:47,280
question yeah there was a question there

1191
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:49,200
wait wait a minute yeah

1192
00:40:53,190 --> 00:40:51,280
i want that yeah wait

1193
00:40:55,030 --> 00:40:53,200
flair's like i want to get paid all

1194
00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:55,040
right so nathan will take care of your

1195
00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:57,599
benefits plan anyway so

1196
00:41:01,670 --> 00:40:59,760
this is the thing john so you're in

1197
00:41:04,390 --> 00:41:01,680
connecticut you're at this conjuring

1198
00:41:07,829 --> 00:41:04,400
house you know oh you have okay so yeah

1199
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:07,839
oh yeah okay so yeah so there's

1200
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:09,760
ah

1201
00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:10,880
so i don't want to get too deep into it

1202
00:41:14,069 --> 00:41:12,240
because i'm writing a couple books with

1203
00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:14,079
with a another guy who's is amazing i

1204
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:15,520
don't want to say his name he's a he's a

1205
00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:17,920
really great dude and he and i and just

1206
00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:18,510
kidding

1207
00:41:24,230 --> 00:41:22,000
[Laughter]

1208
00:41:25,829 --> 00:41:24,240
um he kind of he kind of got me hit to

1209
00:41:27,670 --> 00:41:25,839
it and we've been really expounding upon

1210
00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:27,680
it but but basically there's a way

1211
00:41:31,589 --> 00:41:29,839
there's a massive overlap and and he

1212
00:41:33,349 --> 00:41:31,599
came from the world of

1213
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:33,359
the whole

1214
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:35,280
um i'm gonna go investigate this whole

1215
00:41:38,550 --> 00:41:36,800
poltergeist thing where there's stuff

1216
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:38,560
flying off the wall the kids can't sleep

1217
00:41:41,109 --> 00:41:40,000
the dog's getting harassed you know

1218
00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:41,119
people you know like there's stuff

1219
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:42,480
flying out of their drawers and all this

1220
00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:45,680
[\h__\h] and you know um didn't see the the

1221
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:47,280
ufo side of it and then you know the

1222
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:48,560
orbs were part of it and all these

1223
00:41:53,910 --> 00:41:51,040
things but then he started overlapping

1224
00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:53,920
the whole um ufo sighting thing and it

1225
00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:56,240
was like verbatim one for one boom boom

1226
00:41:59,990 --> 00:41:58,400
boom boom boom boom like all the places

1227
00:42:01,750 --> 00:42:00,000
that he was like he he went out and you

1228
00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:01,760
know he's got like the trifield meters

1229
00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:03,119
and he had like people that went with

1230
00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:04,800
them and they did all these things and

1231
00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:05,839
he said that you know a lot of this

1232
00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:07,359
stuff was like the refrigerator was

1233
00:42:10,470 --> 00:42:08,960
screwed up the electrician had to come

1234
00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:10,480
in and like you know they do they do

1235
00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:12,319
like a legit scientific investigation

1236
00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:13,359
they get somebody to come look at all

1237
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:15,200
the electrical in the house they come to

1238
00:42:17,510 --> 00:42:16,240
look at you know make sure that your

1239
00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:17,520
sewer is not backing up and you're

1240
00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:19,200
getting methane and you know you're

1241
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:21,760
seeing you know they do it legit

1242
00:42:26,710 --> 00:42:23,760
it's and the ones that they can't

1243
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:26,720
explain has this massive correlation

1244
00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:29,760
with ufo sightings

1245
00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:31,040
and it's it's always like aerial

1246
00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:32,640
phenomenon things like that and it's not

1247
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:34,000
only that it's like the cryptid thing

1248
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:35,280
too it's like or you know like people

1249
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:37,280
saw a bigfoot or a

1250
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:39,119
wolf or you know like any of that saw a

1251
00:42:42,309 --> 00:42:40,720
bat or you know like some giant thing

1252
00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:42,319
you know and it's like there's these

1253
00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:45,839
pockets of just mayhem

1254
00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:47,599
you know that happened and people get

1255
00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:48,880
kind of caught up in the middle of it

1256
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:50,960
and um

1257
00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:52,240
you know and i think that's kind of one

1258
00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:54,400
of the biggest um

1259
00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:55,760
the biggest you know we were talking

1260
00:42:59,430 --> 00:42:57,839
really early on about you know the drama

1261
00:43:01,190 --> 00:42:59,440
on ufo twitter and all those things it's

1262
00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:01,200
like well the ufo twitter people don't

1263
00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:02,720
talk to the bigfoot people and the

1264
00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:04,240
bigfoot people don't talk to the ghost

1265
00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:05,280
people and the ghost people don't talk

1266
00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:07,760
to anybody you know and it's like

1267
00:43:11,270 --> 00:43:09,119
man everybody just needs to talk to

1268
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:11,280
everybody because um

1269
00:43:15,990 --> 00:43:14,079
until we can share data and and get into

1270
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:16,000
a you know a no

1271
00:43:19,030 --> 00:43:17,520
um

1272
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:19,040
uh what am i what are the words i'm

1273
00:43:22,950 --> 00:43:21,520
looking for like like a uh

1274
00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:22,960
dev helped me out like where it's like

1275
00:43:25,510 --> 00:43:24,160
it's okay to talk about everything

1276
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:25,520
what's the psychological term you talk

1277
00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:26,640
about it's like it's okay to talk about

1278
00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:27,920
all these things

1279
00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:30,000
i'm just gonna call it being open-minded

1280
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:32,319
i mean well there you go i thought there

1281
00:43:36,069 --> 00:43:34,160
was a term for but you know basically

1282
00:43:37,589 --> 00:43:36,079
it's like you're open to express all of

1283
00:43:39,109 --> 00:43:37,599
your feelings and emotions without

1284
00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:39,119
judgment right or you can just get up

1285
00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:40,960
here and say yeah i saw a ghost okay

1286
00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:42,960
cool i saw a bigfoot oh all right i saw

1287
00:43:47,510 --> 00:43:45,440
ufo yeah cool well my

1288
00:43:49,109 --> 00:43:47,520
refrigerator flew open and all the ice

1289
00:43:50,730 --> 00:43:49,119
flew out of it like

1290
00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:50,740
all right cool so

1291
00:43:53,510 --> 00:43:52,160
[Music]

1292
00:43:56,309 --> 00:43:53,520
is it the same thing is it something

1293
00:43:58,230 --> 00:43:56,319
different is it uh is it whatever it is

1294
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:58,240
to the individual person experiencing it

1295
00:44:02,710 --> 00:43:59,760
at that moment

1296
00:44:04,150 --> 00:44:02,720
possibly are you influencing it

1297
00:44:07,349 --> 00:44:04,160
yourself

1298
00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:07,359
by whatever your bioelectrical chemical

1299
00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:08,480
makeup is

1300
00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:10,240
maybe is there a magnetic field

1301
00:44:15,510 --> 00:44:12,560
disruption is it all of those things

1302
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:15,520
probably i don't know i feel the

1303
00:44:19,750 --> 00:44:17,440
difference i feel it seems to me and

1304
00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:19,760
this is just so just i want to just take

1305
00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:22,720
this with i'm open to any possibility

1306
00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:24,319
this is just what i think and what i

1307
00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:26,240
feel and i'm hoping that i could be

1308
00:44:31,589 --> 00:44:28,000
completely wrong about this

1309
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:31,599
i feel like ghosts are representative of

1310
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:32,800
humans

1311
00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:34,960
spirits or consciousnesses

1312
00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:36,480
that have died

1313
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:39,200
and have for some reason decided to

1314
00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:40,240
remain

1315
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:43,359
in a physical location for either a

1316
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:44,880
positive reason

1317
00:44:50,069 --> 00:44:47,760
for uh as they tell medium sometimes

1318
00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:50,079
that there was business that was left

1319
00:44:56,309 --> 00:44:53,200
unaccomplished or possibly for malice

1320
00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:56,319
uh that we see in in instances where

1321
00:45:00,550 --> 00:44:57,839
they're violent with someone in the

1322
00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:00,560
house either physically or or something

1323
00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:03,119
and i feel like the the phenomenon that

1324
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:05,040
i think of as and i'm just going to use

1325
00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:07,440
the term ufos i'm thinking of as

1326
00:45:12,069 --> 00:45:09,760
something that uh

1327
00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:12,079
either comes from another dimension

1328
00:45:18,069 --> 00:45:15,280
something that comes uh from uh possibly

1329
00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:18,079
a different time space and then enters

1330
00:45:23,349 --> 00:45:20,880
into our time space to look around as

1331
00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:23,359
they did with the navy kind of surveil

1332
00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:25,599
see what the navy's doing these types of

1333
00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:28,000
things so i see them as different things

1334
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:30,560
one of them used to be a human

1335
00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:32,880
that is some for some reason connected

1336
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:36,400
itself to a specific location or person

1337
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:37,680
because sometimes there's that

1338
00:45:41,670 --> 00:45:40,079
hitchhiker and i think of the ufos as

1339
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:41,680
something that is

1340
00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:43,520
coming and interacting with us for a

1341
00:46:01,270 --> 00:45:48,150
i

1342
00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:01,280
you

1343
00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:04,720
i'm open to be wrong

1344
00:46:08,710 --> 00:46:06,960
yeah no totally i mean

1345
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:08,720
i um

1346
00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:11,040
when i was a kid i saw a ghost it scared

1347
00:46:15,430 --> 00:46:12,880
the [\h__\h] out of me

1348
00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:15,440
like a person type thing or

1349
00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:16,560
wow

1350
00:46:22,390 --> 00:46:20,000
oh my god and it wasn't until i was

1351
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:22,400
17 or 18 until i met a lady named chris

1352
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:24,960
woodward woodward she writes these books

1353
00:46:28,069 --> 00:46:26,400
she's got a giant series of books called

1354
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:28,079
haunted ohio she's got like 10 of them

1355
00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:29,760
or something like that

1356
00:46:33,030 --> 00:46:32,160
amazing right she's amazing author nice

1357
00:46:34,710 --> 00:46:33,040
lady

1358
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:34,720
and i was working at a radio station at

1359
00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:36,240
the time in dayton it was halloween we

1360
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:37,599
had like the halloween thing and it was

1361
00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:39,280
like in a building from the 1800s and it

1362
00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:40,480
was like you know it was a

1363
00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:41,760
slaughterhouse in the 1800s but they

1364
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:44,319
turned into a radio station wow amazing

1365
00:46:49,109 --> 00:46:46,319
right so yeah so i got to work

1366
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:49,119
overnights right i got to do uh 10 or

1367
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:51,680
yeah 10 p.m to 10 a.m right so i was

1368
00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:53,119
there by myself

1369
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:55,200
and i saw some weird stuff right like

1370
00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:56,880
chair spinning in circles and all this

1371
00:47:00,630 --> 00:46:58,560
other [\h__\h] like just

1372
00:47:01,750 --> 00:47:00,640
weird stuff and i asked her like off the

1373
00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:01,760
air i'm like look this is what i'm

1374
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:02,880
seeing whatever and she looked at me and

1375
00:47:05,349 --> 00:47:04,160
she's like you could stop seeing it if

1376
00:47:06,230 --> 00:47:05,359
you want to

1377
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:06,240
like what do you mean she's like you

1378
00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:07,440
just tell yourself you don't want to see

1379
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:09,359
it anymore and when that happens you're

1380
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:10,400
like nope

1381
00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:11,839
i'm done i don't want to see it i'm like

1382
00:47:14,069 --> 00:47:13,040
that's it she's like that's it that's

1383
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:14,079
what i got to do so the next time

1384
00:47:16,150 --> 00:47:15,280
something that happened is i was like

1385
00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:16,160
nope

1386
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:17,200
i'm done

1387
00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:19,119
and then i didn't see anything anymore

1388
00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:21,760
for a long time talking about 10 20

1389
00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:24,079
years 15 15 years or something like that

1390
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:25,920
right until allowed myself to be able to

1391
00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:27,760
open to whatever that was without

1392
00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:29,520
because it really scares the

1393
00:47:32,390 --> 00:47:31,440
the hell out of him you know

1394
00:47:33,670 --> 00:47:32,400
and because you don't know what it is

1395
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:33,680
you immediately go to the thing like oh

1396
00:47:37,270 --> 00:47:35,280
it's my dead grandma it's whatever right

1397
00:47:40,950 --> 00:47:37,280
you know i don't know what that is but

1398
00:47:43,990 --> 00:47:40,960
um the power that you have

1399
00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:44,000
mentally to be able to to or or to not

1400
00:47:48,069 --> 00:47:46,079
experience those things is massive and

1401
00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:48,079
it's so undervalued so

1402
00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:50,480
she taught me that she taught me that

1403
00:47:53,829 --> 00:47:52,480
you can

1404
00:47:55,109 --> 00:47:53,839
allow yourself to do these things or

1405
00:47:56,950 --> 00:47:55,119
allow yourself not to do those things

1406
00:47:58,549 --> 00:47:56,960
and from my personal experience i find

1407
00:47:59,750 --> 00:47:58,559
that to be true but like i've said this

1408
00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:59,760
before in a couple different interviews

1409
00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:01,440
it's just it's harder to turn the knob

1410
00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:03,599
back on than it is to turn it off it's

1411
00:48:08,390 --> 00:48:05,520
easier to turn it off but

1412
00:48:09,990 --> 00:48:08,400
um because you know all of the

1413
00:48:11,829 --> 00:48:10,000
um

1414
00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:11,839
social implications or whatever like you

1415
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:13,200
know and all these other things and two

1416
00:48:15,670 --> 00:48:14,400
plus you just don't want to be scared

1417
00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:15,680
you know i'm just gonna try to go to the

1418
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:16,880
bathroom at three in the morning i don't

1419
00:48:19,829 --> 00:48:18,000
wanna see

1420
00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:19,839
two people hanging out in the hallway on

1421
00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:22,960
top of that yeah right

1422
00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:24,880
i really gotta go take a leak a lady i

1423
00:48:27,990 --> 00:48:26,079
don't

1424
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:28,000
give me that toilet paper yeah yeah

1425
00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:29,200
right yeah if you're gonna do something

1426
00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:30,480
clean up that's what that's that's

1427
00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:31,760
exactly what i did i got really pissed

1428
00:48:34,390 --> 00:48:32,800
because this thing came out i'm like

1429
00:48:36,710 --> 00:48:34,400
look if you're going to be here do the

1430
00:48:37,990 --> 00:48:36,720
laundry or something cause you're like

1431
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:38,000
like

1432
00:48:44,230 --> 00:48:43,040
how about or get out i don't know what

1433
00:48:46,069 --> 00:48:44,240
to tell you

1434
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:46,079
well i mean just like that

1435
00:48:49,589 --> 00:48:47,520
yeah you know just like you talked about

1436
00:48:50,950 --> 00:48:49,599
earlier about the cornerstone and and

1437
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:50,960
things that you started to see as you

1438
00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:53,040
became a mason that had been there all

1439
00:48:55,750 --> 00:48:54,000
along

1440
00:48:57,670 --> 00:48:55,760
you know the truth of the matter is that

1441
00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:57,680
we're born into a world that is already

1442
00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:59,440
putting the blinders on us and is

1443
00:49:02,870 --> 00:49:00,720
already

1444
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:02,880
you know kind of keeping us in a lane

1445
00:49:07,190 --> 00:49:04,800
and so i agree with you it is really

1446
00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:07,200
hard to open the valve it's it's a lot

1447
00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:09,040
easier to shut it because in many ways

1448
00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:11,520
it's already shut when we get here

1449
00:49:15,910 --> 00:49:13,920
um and so here and then preconditioned

1450
00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:15,920
by society and you're exactly bringing

1451
00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:17,440
in whatever else is just shut down but

1452
00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:19,200
then you look at the like cultures like

1453
00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:20,160
india

1454
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:22,640
where where reincarnation is just

1455
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:25,200
welcomed and and embraced

1456
00:49:29,030 --> 00:49:26,640
and they find these people they're like

1457
00:49:30,950 --> 00:49:29,040
hey this my daughter was born with this

1458
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:30,960
giant birthmark on her chest and she's

1459
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:33,520
like yeah i got shot by the guy that's

1460
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:35,280
two villages down and they go down two

1461
00:49:38,069 --> 00:49:36,960
villages and she's four and they take

1462
00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:38,079
her down there and they're like oh yeah

1463
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:39,920
this is the guy

1464
00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:41,520
and that's my gran and that's my grandma

1465
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:43,440
and that's aunt sue and like all this

1466
00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:45,359
stuff and they're like yeah and then you

1467
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:48,400
know like that happens a lot in that in

1468
00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:50,960
in that society and in that in that

1469
00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:52,240
culture right

1470
00:49:55,829 --> 00:49:54,160
but here you know my dad told me a

1471
00:49:57,430 --> 00:49:55,839
couple a long time he's like if

1472
00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:57,440
reincarnation happened here in america

1473
00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:59,359
it'd be so it'd be so bizarre because

1474
00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:00,960
everything changes so often it's like do

1475
00:50:03,990 --> 00:50:02,160
you imagine that like if you

1476
00:50:05,349 --> 00:50:04,000
reincarnated like you know it's 50 years

1477
00:50:06,870 --> 00:50:05,359
100 years whatever it's like [\h__\h]

1478
00:50:09,349 --> 00:50:06,880
there's a taco bell where the house used

1479
00:50:10,549 --> 00:50:09,359
to be you know there's there's like

1480
00:50:12,470 --> 00:50:10,559
there's all these things that are

1481
00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:12,480
different you know what i mean like

1482
00:50:14,710 --> 00:50:13,680
everything would be completely changed

1483
00:50:15,910 --> 00:50:14,720
you wouldn't have your bearings or

1484
00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:15,920
whatever and plus we don't have the

1485
00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:18,400
cultural or psychological makeup to even

1486
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:20,640
embrace that idea we have no embracement

1487
00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:21,839
of the idea but other cultures like

1488
00:50:26,470 --> 00:50:24,000
india specifically we're like yeah this

1489
00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:26,480
is what's going on cool and there's so

1490
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:28,079
many stories out of india about that and

1491
00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:29,680
that's just completely overlooked i

1492
00:50:33,670 --> 00:50:31,920
don't mean to break in nathan's uh

1493
00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:33,680
because nathan's got the con right now

1494
00:50:38,549 --> 00:50:36,480
but do you have a place that you want to

1495
00:50:40,309 --> 00:50:38,559
explore in the world that you

1496
00:50:46,870 --> 00:50:40,319
would like to take all of your knowledge

1497
00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:48,790
south carolina it's right down below you

1498
00:50:51,589 --> 00:50:50,400
man

1499
00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:51,599
honestly

1500
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:53,680
that's him i'm in florida it doesn't

1501
00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:55,920
exist to me that's uh i stopped i said

1502
00:50:59,990 --> 00:50:58,400
no to it a long time ago no yeah it's

1503
00:51:01,270 --> 00:51:00,000
just not there anymore why is it just

1504
00:51:02,309 --> 00:51:01,280
like why is it not i'll carry online i'm

1505
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:02,319
sorry yeah

1506
00:51:05,670 --> 00:51:04,720
i digress that's a good question

1507
00:51:08,069 --> 00:51:05,680
uh

1508
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:08,079
that's a very good question well i you

1509
00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:10,240
know i think um

1510
00:51:13,109 --> 00:51:11,440
there's so many themes that i wanted to

1511
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:13,119
touch on with what you just said but you

1512
00:51:16,950 --> 00:51:13,839
know

1513
00:51:20,069 --> 00:51:16,960
person

1514
00:51:21,270 --> 00:51:20,079
and i think that um

1515
00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:21,280
you know one thing that i think we're

1516
00:51:25,270 --> 00:51:23,040
all kind of struggling with in the 21st

1517
00:51:27,190 --> 00:51:25,280
century is virtual community how we make

1518
00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:27,200
virtual community work those of us

1519
00:51:30,390 --> 00:51:28,800
who've been in

1520
00:51:31,990 --> 00:51:30,400
real communities like meat space

1521
00:51:33,910 --> 00:51:32,000
communities like we

1522
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:33,920
we've inherited long traditions that

1523
00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:35,599
have preceded us that allow that

1524
00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:38,640
community to have cohesion meaning value

1525
00:51:43,109 --> 00:51:40,160
and and there's there's something really

1526
00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:43,119
tangible about that in the virtual space

1527
00:51:47,190 --> 00:51:45,599
it's much more difficult i think to to

1528
00:51:48,790 --> 00:51:47,200
kind of create that

1529
00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:48,800
uh you know what are some things that

1530
00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:50,559
you think we can do

1531
00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:51,680
to

1532
00:51:55,589 --> 00:51:54,240
better cement our virtual communities

1533
00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:55,599
you know where we can kind of extend

1534
00:52:00,069 --> 00:51:57,520
open hands as opposed to closed fists

1535
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:00,079
when we engage with each other

1536
00:52:06,630 --> 00:52:04,000
that's a really great question i i um

1537
00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:06,640
in in to me it goes back to empathy you

1538
00:52:10,710 --> 00:52:09,520
know and and that's kind of where i live

1539
00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:10,720
and i think that's probably just the way

1540
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:12,720
i was born and the way the way i act but

1541
00:52:17,829 --> 00:52:14,720
you know

1542
00:52:19,750 --> 00:52:17,839
reinforced i guess throughout my life

1543
00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:19,760
because

1544
00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:22,400
it's such a superpower you know um

1545
00:52:25,910 --> 00:52:24,480
empathy is a massive superpower you know

1546
00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:25,920
buddy bolton i think he told me that

1547
00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:28,400
empathy is a superpower you know um

1548
00:52:32,309 --> 00:52:30,240
and it's true

1549
00:52:32,740 --> 00:52:32,319
um

1550
00:52:34,630 --> 00:52:32,750
you

1551
00:52:37,270 --> 00:52:34,640
[Music]

1552
00:52:39,670 --> 00:52:37,280
you don't have any idea the struggles

1553
00:52:41,349 --> 00:52:39,680
that other people are going through

1554
00:52:42,790 --> 00:52:41,359
at all like you really don't i mean you

1555
00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:42,800
can try to put yourself in their shoes

1556
00:52:46,230 --> 00:52:44,880
you can try to

1557
00:52:48,549 --> 00:52:46,240
you know wrap your mind around what

1558
00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:48,559
they're dealing with or whatever and and

1559
00:52:54,069 --> 00:52:50,880
you know we're such a reactionary

1560
00:52:56,230 --> 00:52:54,079
species right and and um

1561
00:52:58,470 --> 00:52:56,240
uh

1562
00:53:02,069 --> 00:52:58,480
you know um your partner in crime who

1563
00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:04,790
um he has a great analogy about this you

1564
00:53:09,589 --> 00:53:06,480
know where and we've talked about this

1565
00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:09,599
too um exo academia you know he and i

1566
00:53:13,990 --> 00:53:11,920
talked about this where it's like

1567
00:53:16,549 --> 00:53:14,000
we have these things built into us that

1568
00:53:18,309 --> 00:53:16,559
are our knee-jerk reactions

1569
00:53:20,309 --> 00:53:18,319
and the analogy i think that what we

1570
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:20,319
talked about expanded upon was about

1571
00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:22,960
spiders right like i'm scared like i

1572
00:53:26,390 --> 00:53:24,400
don't know why i was just born i don't

1573
00:53:29,589 --> 00:53:26,400
like a spider if i see a spider i just

1574
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:29,599
boom you know like it's just done like i

1575
00:53:33,349 --> 00:53:31,200
don't care i'm killing every spider i

1576
00:53:35,910 --> 00:53:33,359
see i don't know what that is

1577
00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:35,920
i don't know why it's arachnophobia

1578
00:53:39,109 --> 00:53:37,359
right but i mean it was built into me

1579
00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:39,119
like it wasn't like a you know like a

1580
00:53:43,109 --> 00:53:41,280
you know a thing right but i mean that

1581
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:43,119
that was a

1582
00:53:47,030 --> 00:53:45,200
a a thing right

1583
00:53:48,549 --> 00:53:47,040
so once i started recognizing that and

1584
00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:48,559
after we had that conversation him and i

1585
00:53:50,950 --> 00:53:49,760
you know then i started seeing spiders

1586
00:53:52,630 --> 00:53:50,960
everywhere they started [\h__\h] showing

1587
00:53:54,790 --> 00:53:52,640
up like everywhere

1588
00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:54,800
like just coming and i'm like

1589
00:53:59,349 --> 00:53:57,440
i really shouldn't kill you

1590
00:54:00,630 --> 00:53:59,359
like that that was the wrong move i

1591
00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:00,640
really but i don't like you i really

1592
00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:02,640
shouldn't kill you but i just you know

1593
00:54:06,390 --> 00:54:05,040
like i you know so it takes a lot of

1594
00:54:07,829 --> 00:54:06,400
self um

1595
00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:07,839
regulation

1596
00:54:12,069 --> 00:54:10,720
and um and uh

1597
00:54:14,230 --> 00:54:12,079
restraint

1598
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:14,240
to be to be able to go against whatever

1599
00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:15,920
that initial

1600
00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:17,119
push is

1601
00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:19,359
mentally physically or whatever

1602
00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:21,119
um and i can't remember where i'm going

1603
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:23,040
with this but i think him and i talked

1604
00:54:26,309 --> 00:54:24,400
about it or maybe he's talked about it

1605
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:26,319
before that's like what if what if

1606
00:54:31,030 --> 00:54:28,720
another entity that showed up

1607
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:31,040
from a dimension a craft or whatever it

1608
00:54:34,390 --> 00:54:32,800
showed up and it looked like a spider

1609
00:54:35,750 --> 00:54:34,400
right or something that you really just

1610
00:54:37,030 --> 00:54:35,760
immediately just want to punch in the

1611
00:54:41,109 --> 00:54:37,040
face right

1612
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:41,119
like a a immediate gut reaction like

1613
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:42,880
how do you stop yourself from doing that

1614
00:54:46,390 --> 00:54:44,000
and like how you stop yourself from

1615
00:54:47,990 --> 00:54:46,400
doing that as a whole you know it's like

1616
00:54:49,829 --> 00:54:48,000
this thing showed up and it was like the

1617
00:54:53,349 --> 00:54:49,839
nicest thing in the world but it was a

1618
00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:53,359
eight-legged hairy spider

1619
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:54,880
just they just wanted to give you like

1620
00:54:57,589 --> 00:54:56,160
the secrets of the universe and the

1621
00:54:58,470 --> 00:54:57,599
first thing i do is just punch it in the

1622
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:58,480
grill

1623
00:55:02,150 --> 00:54:59,760
bam

1624
00:55:03,109 --> 00:55:02,160
like you know like like how do you how

1625
00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:03,119
do you

1626
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:05,280
harness that uh

1627
00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:07,040
that instinct that's built into you and

1628
00:55:09,750 --> 00:55:08,880
i i don't know i don't know i think it's

1629
00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:09,760
i don't know if it's meditation or

1630
00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:11,359
getting to know yourself or putting

1631
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:13,200
yourself in a situation where that sucks

1632
00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:15,599
and learning how to overcome it

1633
00:55:19,109 --> 00:55:16,960
i'm still learning every day i don't

1634
00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:19,119
know i can i can actually speak to that

1635
00:55:22,150 --> 00:55:21,280
a little bit john from your point is

1636
00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:22,160
that

1637
00:55:26,710 --> 00:55:24,000
domina i think it was dominic monahan

1638
00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:26,720
who famously was in lost that movie lost

1639
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:28,640
and he's been excuse me that

1640
00:55:31,510 --> 00:55:30,640
television series that hit tv series

1641
00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:31,520
lost

1642
00:55:34,470 --> 00:55:33,040
and he was on with joe rogan he was

1643
00:55:38,309 --> 00:55:34,480
talking about ants

1644
00:55:40,309 --> 00:55:38,319
and he went through this entire um

1645
00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:40,319
diatribe about basically how

1646
00:55:44,950 --> 00:55:42,079
intellectual ants are how they work

1647
00:55:47,349 --> 00:55:44,960
together how valuable they are and how

1648
00:55:49,270 --> 00:55:47,359
you know people will run over ant hills

1649
00:55:51,190 --> 00:55:49,280
with their cars and it really struck me

1650
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:51,200
and so what i started to do

1651
00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:53,440
after that because uh people come on

1652
00:55:56,390 --> 00:55:54,880
their show and said well

1653
00:55:58,470 --> 00:55:56,400
you know uh

1654
00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:58,480
you know you say that i i you know you

1655
00:56:02,630 --> 00:56:00,240
shouldn't just indiscriminately shoot a

1656
00:56:05,109 --> 00:56:02,640
squirrel but yet you'll just you know

1657
00:56:07,589 --> 00:56:05,119
crush ants or or or some sort of an

1658
00:56:09,190 --> 00:56:07,599
insect so i started taking things and

1659
00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:09,200
putting them outside so if there's some

1660
00:56:13,190 --> 00:56:11,359
sort of an insect in my house that i

1661
00:56:15,910 --> 00:56:13,200
don't want on there i'll just try it

1662
00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:15,920
i'm doing the same thing i open the door

1663
00:56:19,510 --> 00:56:17,680
and i just put them out i just put them

1664
00:56:23,109 --> 00:56:19,520
outside if i don't want them in there

1665
00:56:25,349 --> 00:56:23,119
but i don't set ant traps anymore or

1666
00:56:27,910 --> 00:56:25,359
you know i try to just leave them alone

1667
00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:27,920
if i i'm i'm out in the forest all the

1668
00:56:31,030 --> 00:56:29,200
time like

1669
00:56:33,190 --> 00:56:31,040
hey these guys know every weekend or

1670
00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:33,200
when i'm off work i'm out there so if i

1671
00:56:37,270 --> 00:56:35,040
see something i'll just

1672
00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:37,280
try to go around it without stepping on

1673
00:56:41,349 --> 00:56:39,040
it without if it's not bothering me now

1674
00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:41,359
obviously when there are certain flies

1675
00:56:45,030 --> 00:56:42,960
that hurt real bad that are on my neck

1676
00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:45,040
your instinct you you you you hit them

1677
00:56:48,950 --> 00:56:46,559
oh yeah but if they're not bothering me

1678
00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:48,960
i'm not i'm not bothering them so i just

1679
00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:51,040
kind of look at it that way i live and

1680
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:52,880
let live if you're not bothering me you

1681
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:54,720
know you're okay whether it's a snake or

1682
00:56:59,430 --> 00:56:56,880
whatever you know

1683
00:57:01,670 --> 00:56:59,440
it's hard to get into that that

1684
00:57:03,910 --> 00:57:01,680
that groove i mean you know and i think

1685
00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:03,920
it's probably bred into us for survival

1686
00:57:08,470 --> 00:57:06,160
at some point where a spider bit

1687
00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:08,480
somebody killed him and like all these

1688
00:57:11,589 --> 00:57:10,480
people are like yep nope that's not

1689
00:57:12,870 --> 00:57:11,599
gonna happen anymore same thing with the

1690
00:57:15,109 --> 00:57:12,880
sn you know what i mean like at some

1691
00:57:17,349 --> 00:57:15,119
point it's i think i i was really

1692
00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:17,359
fascinated i i remember

1693
00:57:19,670 --> 00:57:18,480
seeing this documentary and i can't

1694
00:57:20,630 --> 00:57:19,680
remember the name of it right now but it

1695
00:57:21,910 --> 00:57:20,640
was on

1696
00:57:24,470 --> 00:57:21,920
something where

1697
00:57:26,150 --> 00:57:24,480
it was like pre pre was like right

1698
00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:26,160
during world war ii or somewhere near

1699
00:57:31,030 --> 00:57:27,280
there where

1700
00:57:32,470 --> 00:57:31,040
russia started domesticating foxes

1701
00:57:34,710 --> 00:57:32,480
and it was like this lady who was like

1702
00:57:35,910 --> 00:57:34,720
in her 80s or 90s and basically what

1703
00:57:37,829 --> 00:57:35,920
they did is they took all these foxes

1704
00:57:39,030 --> 00:57:37,839
and they put them in cages outside and

1705
00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:39,040
this lady would walk up to him and she

1706
00:57:42,549 --> 00:57:40,880
put her hand next to the cage and if the

1707
00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:42,559
fox would be like

1708
00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:43,760
whatever and it would just attack the

1709
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:44,720
lady you know and she should go to the

1710
00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:46,000
next one the fox would just be like yeah

1711
00:57:49,349 --> 00:57:47,920
whatever the next one the fox would come

1712
00:57:50,630 --> 00:57:49,359
up and kind of sniff her

1713
00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:50,640
right and she'd do that and they'd find

1714
00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:52,000
like a male and female and they breed

1715
00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:53,680
them and they kept doing that and it was

1716
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:57,040
like 70 years they did it for 70 years

1717
00:58:01,750 --> 00:57:59,839
and the fox's like ears got smaller

1718
00:58:02,710 --> 00:58:01,760
their tails got bushier they like they

1719
00:58:05,109 --> 00:58:02,720
basically

1720
00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:05,119
created a domestic fox after 70 years

1721
00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:07,359
after this breeding of like taking like

1722
00:58:10,789 --> 00:58:08,880
the chill foxes and breeding them

1723
00:58:12,710 --> 00:58:10,799
together to create this fox and now they

1724
00:58:14,230 --> 00:58:12,720
have like domesticated foxes they did

1725
00:58:15,829 --> 00:58:14,240
this all through the war like all this

1726
00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:15,839
stuff and like in russia they they had

1727
00:58:19,589 --> 00:58:17,920
this program so it's like

1728
00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:19,599
so now they have like this generational

1729
00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:22,000
thing where like it's bred in and it's

1730
00:58:26,309 --> 00:58:23,680
like and i think they've done massive

1731
00:58:27,829 --> 00:58:26,319
research to where it's like

1732
00:58:29,829 --> 00:58:27,839
that could be completely wrong so but i

1733
00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:29,839
think it's like seven generations where

1734
00:58:34,549 --> 00:58:32,160
an inherited trait is is brought into

1735
00:58:35,589 --> 00:58:34,559
you so like seven generations ago

1736
00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:35,599
somebody

1737
00:58:39,829 --> 00:58:37,760
and hair i inherited

1738
00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:39,839
a spider being bad

1739
00:58:44,309 --> 00:58:42,480
and so for me it's just bam you know and

1740
00:58:46,710 --> 00:58:44,319
that's what it is so if you think about

1741
00:58:47,990 --> 00:58:46,720
that in the long run like how many

1742
00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:48,000
thousands of years have we been

1743
00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:49,200
inherited

1744
00:58:56,470 --> 00:58:52,559
whatever our traits are right from

1745
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,789
maybe it was around then

1746
00:59:00,799 --> 00:59:03,589
maybe not

1747
00:59:07,510 --> 00:59:05,589
but but honestly i think that's that's

1748
00:59:08,950 --> 00:59:07,520
like a real that's a legitimate thing

1749
00:59:11,589 --> 00:59:08,960
that you can look up it's an inherited

1750
00:59:13,589 --> 00:59:11,599
trait after seven generations so

1751
00:59:15,670 --> 00:59:13,599
who's to say that

1752
00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:15,680
somebody could potentially manipulate

1753
00:59:21,109 --> 00:59:18,559
our genetic predisposition or or our

1754
00:59:23,109 --> 00:59:21,119
reaction to a certain person place or

1755
00:59:23,990 --> 00:59:23,119
thing

1756
00:59:26,069 --> 00:59:24,000
to

1757
00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:26,079
its conditioning right

1758
00:59:29,829 --> 00:59:28,000
basically it's just mental conditioning

1759
00:59:31,030 --> 00:59:29,839
or physical mental conditioning all of

1760
00:59:32,150 --> 00:59:31,040
it right

1761
00:59:35,109 --> 00:59:32,160
nathan do you think we've been

1762
00:59:40,150 --> 00:59:37,990
uh during this talk yes

1763
00:59:42,150 --> 00:59:40,160
definitely no not just by you john i

1764
00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:42,160
mean oh no i was talking about deb she's

1765
00:59:45,270 --> 00:59:43,440
saying she's not saying a lot but she's

1766
00:59:48,789 --> 00:59:45,280
saying a lot

1767
00:59:51,190 --> 00:59:48,799
uh you know i i do think uh

1768
00:59:53,430 --> 00:59:51,200
we are manipulated by things we see seen

1769
00:59:55,190 --> 00:59:53,440
and unseen let's put it that way and uh

1770
00:59:56,470 --> 00:59:55,200
you know i think john would concur you

1771
00:59:58,870 --> 00:59:56,480
know with

1772
01:00:00,470 --> 00:59:58,880
his understanding of symbology

1773
01:00:02,150 --> 01:00:00,480
and the way that it shapes the way we

1774
01:00:03,349 --> 01:00:02,160
think about the world

1775
01:00:04,630 --> 01:00:03,359
uh

1776
01:00:07,510 --> 01:00:04,640
you know so that

1777
01:00:09,829 --> 01:00:07,520
both generationally and in our current

1778
01:00:10,950 --> 01:00:09,839
present moment we are shaped by forces

1779
01:00:13,589 --> 01:00:10,960
of our own

1780
01:00:16,150 --> 01:00:13,599
awareness and and uh and and that those

1781
01:00:16,950 --> 01:00:16,160
things that we are not cognizant of

1782
01:00:18,470 --> 01:00:16,960
and

1783
01:00:20,710 --> 01:00:18,480
you know

1784
01:00:23,109 --> 01:00:20,720
this topic both i think

1785
01:00:23,990 --> 01:00:23,119
with the community aspect of it but also

1786
01:00:26,390 --> 01:00:24,000
as we just talked about with the

1787
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:26,400
paranormal

1788
01:00:30,789 --> 01:00:29,200
our ability to engage with it and i i

1789
01:00:32,549 --> 01:00:30,799
keep uh

1790
01:00:34,710 --> 01:00:32,559
and james just picked the perfect title

1791
01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:34,720
for his for his channel engaging the

1792
01:00:39,270 --> 01:00:36,240
phenomenon

1793
01:00:40,829 --> 01:00:39,280
it's you know to have a relationship

1794
01:00:44,069 --> 01:00:40,839
with anything you have to have

1795
01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:44,079
engagement and to have understanding you

1796
01:00:48,150 --> 01:00:46,319
have to have engagement so this is true

1797
01:00:49,990 --> 01:00:48,160
for human relationships and it's going

1798
01:00:51,270 --> 01:00:50,000
to be true for for non-human

1799
01:00:52,630 --> 01:00:51,280
relationships

1800
01:00:55,670 --> 01:00:52,640
you know i think

1801
01:00:58,150 --> 01:00:55,680
that the universe is teeming with life

1802
01:01:00,309 --> 01:00:58,160
both seen and unseen

1803
01:01:02,789 --> 01:01:00,319
there are many many different kinds of

1804
01:01:04,069 --> 01:01:02,799
uh you know sort of intelligent things

1805
01:01:06,630 --> 01:01:04,079
that are out there

1806
01:01:08,069 --> 01:01:06,640
and it really is it's just a matter of

1807
01:01:09,589 --> 01:01:08,079
our awareness

1808
01:01:11,430 --> 01:01:09,599
you know kind of broadening our

1809
01:01:13,750 --> 01:01:11,440
willingness to say

1810
01:01:15,910 --> 01:01:13,760
yes there might be something to this and

1811
01:01:17,910 --> 01:01:15,920
and sure enough

1812
01:01:20,470 --> 01:01:17,920
things kind of fill the the void or the

1813
01:01:22,309 --> 01:01:20,480
door that we begin to leave open

1814
01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:22,319
uh you know and what does that that say

1815
01:01:25,430 --> 01:01:23,200
about

1816
01:01:26,390 --> 01:01:25,440
our our kind of who we are and our

1817
01:01:27,670 --> 01:01:26,400
mental

1818
01:01:29,910 --> 01:01:27,680
you know sort of the ways our minds

1819
01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:29,920
interact with with reality

1820
01:01:32,710 --> 01:01:30,880
uh

1821
01:01:34,710 --> 01:01:32,720
you know to me it's all intertwined

1822
01:01:36,870 --> 01:01:34,720
that's why you really can't take the

1823
01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:36,880
paranormal out of ufology it really is

1824
01:01:41,109 --> 01:01:38,400
all connected

1825
01:01:43,109 --> 01:01:41,119
it's all happening in conscious

1826
01:01:45,829 --> 01:01:43,119
experience

1827
01:01:47,190 --> 01:01:45,839
maybe that's the bridge but

1828
01:01:48,950 --> 01:01:47,200
you know you can be and i think what

1829
01:01:49,829 --> 01:01:48,960
you're saying is you can be manipulated

1830
01:01:51,510 --> 01:01:49,839
by

1831
01:01:54,309 --> 01:01:51,520
programmers at your favorite news

1832
01:01:55,990 --> 01:01:54,319
channel and or an unseen

1833
01:01:59,190 --> 01:01:56,000
intelligence that

1834
01:02:01,029 --> 01:01:59,200
is around you that you don't see

1835
01:02:04,309 --> 01:02:01,039
yeah okay

1836
01:02:08,870 --> 01:02:05,190
uh

1837
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:11,510
higher cake john pierre cake

1838
01:02:24,309 --> 01:02:22,230
it's a tough one okay

1839
01:02:25,750 --> 01:02:24,319
he's locked up man he totally locked him

1840
01:02:27,750 --> 01:02:25,760
up

1841
01:02:29,670 --> 01:02:27,760
you you don't want to offend either

1842
01:02:31,670 --> 01:02:29,680
either side you know because

1843
01:02:37,349 --> 01:02:31,680
they're in the audience they gotta be

1844
01:02:41,670 --> 01:02:39,670
that tasted like cake

1845
01:02:43,029 --> 01:02:41,680
oh he's not even going for a star wars

1846
01:02:45,109 --> 01:02:43,039
or star trek he's staying on the other

1847
01:02:46,950 --> 01:02:45,119
side i know when you told me pie or cake

1848
01:02:48,789 --> 01:02:46,960
i just got really hungry and like no

1849
01:02:51,589 --> 01:02:48,799
this is weird about it you know that's

1850
01:02:55,430 --> 01:02:53,670
nathan's gonna be pie i'm like i mean i

1851
01:02:57,270 --> 01:02:55,440
like pies

1852
01:02:58,470 --> 01:02:57,280
who doesn't like actually

1853
01:03:01,270 --> 01:02:58,480
have you ever met anybody that was like

1854
01:03:02,549 --> 01:03:01,280
nah man i don't like pie yeah right i've

1855
01:03:03,910 --> 01:03:02,559
never met anybody said that about cake

1856
01:03:05,990 --> 01:03:03,920
either like listen man i just don't like

1857
01:03:07,829 --> 01:03:06,000
you if they say you don't have to have

1858
01:03:09,589 --> 01:03:07,839
both worlds

1859
01:03:11,270 --> 01:03:09,599
i've never met anybody that didn't like

1860
01:03:13,109 --> 01:03:11,280
any one of any of those things that you

1861
01:03:14,549 --> 01:03:13,119
just not you know i said but kevin

1862
01:03:16,870 --> 01:03:14,559
that's how we should greet the aliens

1863
01:03:19,109 --> 01:03:16,880
with pie or cake

1864
01:03:24,630 --> 01:03:19,119
both here's a pie cake

1865
01:03:28,630 --> 01:03:26,950
waffle house hash browns

1866
01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:28,640
hey um

1867
01:03:32,710 --> 01:03:30,400
it's a rare moment flair when we're

1868
01:03:35,270 --> 01:03:32,720
looking to you to get us back on the

1869
01:03:39,750 --> 01:03:35,280
rails okay well i can imagine all of us

1870
01:03:44,549 --> 01:03:41,430
we're going to tell you guys something

1871
01:03:45,430 --> 01:03:44,559
real cool here we go that's right

1872
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:45,440
guys

1873
01:03:49,750 --> 01:03:47,680
actually for for john actually um i just

1874
01:03:53,589 --> 01:03:49,760
want to know what what the overall

1875
01:03:54,710 --> 01:03:53,599
message or goal is of your your channel

1876
01:03:58,549 --> 01:03:54,720
what do you want

1877
01:04:00,950 --> 01:03:58,559
audience you know the overall

1878
01:04:02,309 --> 01:04:00,960
yeah tell us what tell them dude that's

1879
01:04:05,190 --> 01:04:02,319
a great question that is a really good

1880
01:04:07,109 --> 01:04:05,200
question so thank you

1881
01:04:09,270 --> 01:04:07,119
and jolie and i'm like what am i gonna

1882
01:04:12,069 --> 01:04:09,280
do and he's like you have a different

1883
01:04:13,750 --> 01:04:12,079
voice that i haven't heard before

1884
01:04:16,789 --> 01:04:13,760
that

1885
01:04:19,270 --> 01:04:16,799
you're talking about this and i

1886
01:04:20,710 --> 01:04:19,280
i looked around like i wasn't

1887
01:04:21,990 --> 01:04:20,720
i was looking and i was like are you

1888
01:04:23,750 --> 01:04:22,000
just making this up but no i couldn't

1889
01:04:25,349 --> 01:04:23,760
find any other informations that were

1890
01:04:27,349 --> 01:04:25,359
talking about it and what i really

1891
01:04:29,910 --> 01:04:27,359
wanted to do

1892
01:04:31,750 --> 01:04:29,920
was find other masons right that was

1893
01:04:33,109 --> 01:04:31,760
like the initial goal was like hey i

1894
01:04:34,549 --> 01:04:33,119
know your brothers are out there yeah

1895
01:04:36,470 --> 01:04:34,559
it's a long right

1896
01:04:38,390 --> 01:04:36,480
actually it's amazing right

1897
01:04:40,789 --> 01:04:38,400
um and and there's other brothers out

1898
01:04:43,430 --> 01:04:40,799
there right um

1899
01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:43,440
and i'm like i can't be the only one

1900
01:04:46,230 --> 01:04:44,960
like i can't be the only one not not

1901
01:04:47,349 --> 01:04:46,240
only

1902
01:04:49,750 --> 01:04:47,359
you know

1903
01:04:51,589 --> 01:04:49,760
in our in our little

1904
01:04:53,510 --> 01:04:51,599
twitter sphere or whatever or

1905
01:04:55,430 --> 01:04:53,520
environment but there's got to be other

1906
01:04:57,029 --> 01:04:55,440
brothers out there that are like yeah i

1907
01:04:59,510 --> 01:04:57,039
know what's going on and i got nobody to

1908
01:05:00,870 --> 01:04:59,520
talk to about this like i've experienced

1909
01:05:04,870 --> 01:05:00,880
it or

1910
01:05:08,069 --> 01:05:04,880
some weird stuff happened to me or i

1911
01:05:11,270 --> 01:05:08,079
know a guy or whatever

1912
01:05:13,029 --> 01:05:11,280
you know the the bonds that we have and

1913
01:05:14,789 --> 01:05:13,039
and the you know hosts that we take for

1914
01:05:16,630 --> 01:05:14,799
each other

1915
01:05:18,789 --> 01:05:16,640
make it so that like i can tell you

1916
01:05:20,150 --> 01:05:18,799
anything in the entire world and i know

1917
01:05:21,670 --> 01:05:20,160
that you're never going to tell anybody

1918
01:05:23,430 --> 01:05:21,680
else about this bit i know i can trust

1919
01:05:25,750 --> 01:05:23,440
you with this and i can tell you about

1920
01:05:27,990 --> 01:05:25,760
it even if it's just for the cathartic

1921
01:05:29,349 --> 01:05:28,000
or the or or the you know just i got to

1922
01:05:30,710 --> 01:05:29,359
get it off my chest because i couldn't

1923
01:05:32,630 --> 01:05:30,720
tell

1924
01:05:34,150 --> 01:05:32,640
you know my mom or my dad you know or

1925
01:05:36,150 --> 01:05:34,160
any or my wife even because they would

1926
01:05:38,470 --> 01:05:36,160
think i'm whatever you know even just

1927
01:05:40,630 --> 01:05:38,480
just to get that type of camaraderie or

1928
01:05:42,870 --> 01:05:40,640
just to like be that outlet or just to

1929
01:05:44,150 --> 01:05:42,880
be like look dude you're cool this is a

1930
01:05:45,349 --> 01:05:44,160
real thing you don't have to worry about

1931
01:05:46,870 --> 01:05:45,359
you know like

1932
01:05:48,549 --> 01:05:46,880
um

1933
01:05:50,950 --> 01:05:48,559
don't freak out you know like this is

1934
01:05:52,549 --> 01:05:50,960
you know a real thing and and you know i

1935
01:05:54,470 --> 01:05:52,559
can help you know let's help each other

1936
01:05:55,990 --> 01:05:54,480
or figure it out and that's kind of what

1937
01:05:57,670 --> 01:05:56,000
i was really into was like i know

1938
01:05:59,829 --> 01:05:57,680
there's other people out there

1939
01:06:01,910 --> 01:05:59,839
that are um

1940
01:06:04,470 --> 01:06:01,920
like-minded in that and then like i said

1941
01:06:06,630 --> 01:06:04,480
there's i always feel like there's this

1942
01:06:08,150 --> 01:06:06,640
i keep bugging walter you know

1943
01:06:09,270 --> 01:06:08,160
and i'm like there's got to be something

1944
01:06:11,270 --> 01:06:09,280
in here

1945
01:06:14,309 --> 01:06:11,280
that you know and freemasonry where it's

1946
01:06:15,829 --> 01:06:14,319
like where like where is this thing you

1947
01:06:17,670 --> 01:06:15,839
know where is this consciousness

1948
01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:17,680
connection or where is the

1949
01:06:24,309 --> 01:06:21,359
you know where is the the key to um

1950
01:06:26,710 --> 01:06:24,319
to unlock you know what what

1951
01:06:28,470 --> 01:06:26,720
we we recognize as the phenomenon right

1952
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:28,480
around us you know

1953
01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:29,330
and and

1954
01:06:32,470 --> 01:06:30,640
[Music]

1955
01:06:34,150 --> 01:06:32,480
is that something that freemasonry has

1956
01:06:36,630 --> 01:06:34,160
always known

1957
01:06:38,549 --> 01:06:36,640
that is hidden inside of the

1958
01:06:40,390 --> 01:06:38,559
allegory and symbolism throughout

1959
01:06:42,630 --> 01:06:40,400
history is it

1960
01:06:45,270 --> 01:06:42,640
i think i personally think that it is

1961
01:06:46,950 --> 01:06:45,280
i i'm gonna try to figure it out i would

1962
01:06:48,390 --> 01:06:46,960
love any other

1963
01:06:50,789 --> 01:06:48,400
brothers out there or anybody else who

1964
01:06:51,910 --> 01:06:50,799
can help me try to get to that path

1965
01:06:53,829 --> 01:06:51,920
um

1966
01:06:56,309 --> 01:06:53,839
but i i really do think that there's

1967
01:06:57,670 --> 01:06:56,319
something in there and i'm and don't get

1968
01:06:58,950 --> 01:06:57,680
me wrong and i'm not sitting here on a

1969
01:07:00,549 --> 01:06:58,960
high horse

1970
01:07:02,870 --> 01:07:00,559
or saying i know anything more than

1971
01:07:04,069 --> 01:07:02,880
anybody else and i'm not and and all i'm

1972
01:07:05,750 --> 01:07:04,079
saying is that

1973
01:07:07,750 --> 01:07:05,760
i had to keep posts and secrets to the

1974
01:07:10,069 --> 01:07:07,760
degrees that i went through and and the

1975
01:07:12,789 --> 01:07:10,079
rituals and the in the signs and symbols

1976
01:07:14,470 --> 01:07:12,799
and the you know um things that i did

1977
01:07:15,910 --> 01:07:14,480
other than that i can tell you anything

1978
01:07:18,630 --> 01:07:15,920
i want to but

1979
01:07:19,130 --> 01:07:18,640
i think that as a human when i went

1980
01:07:21,029 --> 01:07:19,140
through

1981
01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:21,039
[Music]

1982
01:07:25,270 --> 01:07:22,319
the degrees and i went through the

1983
01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:25,280
rituals it did something to me

1984
01:07:29,349 --> 01:07:27,280
psychologically

1985
01:07:30,789 --> 01:07:29,359
to where

1986
01:07:33,029 --> 01:07:30,799
i'm different

1987
01:07:35,029 --> 01:07:33,039
and not a bad way but it kind of like

1988
01:07:36,230 --> 01:07:35,039
it's an initiatory school right it's a

1989
01:07:37,750 --> 01:07:36,240
mystery school it's a it's it's

1990
01:07:39,270 --> 01:07:37,760
something that i think

1991
01:07:41,670 --> 01:07:39,280
was built the way that they built the

1992
01:07:44,309 --> 01:07:41,680
degrees was built in a way that

1993
01:07:46,630 --> 01:07:44,319
it unlocks something in in

1994
01:07:48,470 --> 01:07:46,640
a human where it's like

1995
01:07:50,390 --> 01:07:48,480
cool now you

1996
01:07:52,549 --> 01:07:50,400
have the ability to

1997
01:07:54,710 --> 01:07:52,559
go to pancakes or figure out the

1998
01:07:56,950 --> 01:07:54,720
mysteries of the world i don't know

1999
01:07:59,029 --> 01:07:56,960
but but that's where i'm at

2000
01:08:00,710 --> 01:07:59,039
awesome thank you

2001
01:08:02,230 --> 01:08:00,720
i hope that makes sense that's a great

2002
01:08:03,990 --> 01:08:02,240
answer

2003
01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:04,000
and uh we got to get debs in there we

2004
01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:06,960
have about 23 minutes left debs okay i

2005
01:08:12,150 --> 01:08:10,400
want to go to human initiated contact i

2006
01:08:13,190 --> 01:08:12,160
think it's time

2007
01:08:15,829 --> 01:08:13,200
so

2008
01:08:19,910 --> 01:08:17,910
i i mean obviously if

2009
01:08:21,669 --> 01:08:19,920
you if you want you can summarize a

2010
01:08:24,709 --> 01:08:21,679
little bit of what's happening there for

2011
01:08:26,870 --> 01:08:24,719
you but i think i want to just um get

2012
01:08:32,229 --> 01:08:26,880
kind of like the takeaway for you with

2013
01:08:36,309 --> 01:08:34,630
like personally or as a

2014
01:08:39,269 --> 01:08:36,319
as a whole

2015
01:08:41,110 --> 01:08:39,279
yeah i guess i i want people to make

2016
01:08:43,030 --> 01:08:41,120
their own decisions ultimately if they

2017
01:08:43,910 --> 01:08:43,040
want to try it or not but if you could

2018
01:08:46,229 --> 01:08:43,920
you know

2019
01:08:48,390 --> 01:08:46,239
give advice or

2020
01:08:50,870 --> 01:08:48,400
you know let people know whether or not

2021
01:08:52,630 --> 01:08:50,880
it's worth it that kind of thing

2022
01:08:54,229 --> 01:08:52,640
yeah i think it's i think it's worth it

2023
01:08:56,149 --> 01:08:54,239
and um

2024
01:08:57,349 --> 01:08:56,159
you know nobody uh this is the

2025
01:09:00,630 --> 01:08:57,359
i don't know if james is still there or

2026
01:09:01,749 --> 01:09:00,640
not but anyways i'm calling him out so

2027
01:09:04,309 --> 01:09:01,759
um

2028
01:09:06,789 --> 01:09:04,319
the first time i had a bunch of

2029
01:09:08,070 --> 01:09:06,799
masons um together

2030
01:09:10,470 --> 01:09:08,080
there was

2031
01:09:12,870 --> 01:09:10,480
eight of us

2032
01:09:15,189 --> 01:09:12,880
we booked a

2033
01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:15,199
remote cabin in the middle of literally

2034
01:09:20,070 --> 01:09:18,480
nowhere ohio where there was

2035
01:09:21,349 --> 01:09:20,080
we didn't have electricity right we're

2036
01:09:23,349 --> 01:09:21,359
off the grid

2037
01:09:26,390 --> 01:09:23,359
solar panels windmill

2038
01:09:27,510 --> 01:09:26,400
bank of batteries we're in a cabin

2039
01:09:30,149 --> 01:09:27,520
there's

2040
01:09:31,910 --> 01:09:30,159
an airport to the south of us

2041
01:09:33,349 --> 01:09:31,920
a small regional airport it's tiny

2042
01:09:35,189 --> 01:09:33,359
little thing

2043
01:09:37,030 --> 01:09:35,199
and but other than that there was just

2044
01:09:39,829 --> 01:09:37,040
black black sky

2045
01:09:42,070 --> 01:09:39,839
and this video is on my channel too

2046
01:09:43,349 --> 01:09:42,080
and i got there and i was like look guys

2047
01:09:45,030 --> 01:09:43,359
and everybody kind of knows me right

2048
01:09:46,550 --> 01:09:45,040
obviously

2049
01:09:48,149 --> 01:09:46,560
i want to do this thing

2050
01:09:49,990 --> 01:09:48,159
you know called c5 human initiated

2051
01:09:51,030 --> 01:09:50,000
contact what i want to do is kind of

2052
01:09:52,709 --> 01:09:51,040
like

2053
01:09:54,709 --> 01:09:52,719
all of us get in the mode we kind of

2054
01:09:57,110 --> 01:09:54,719
want to like you know meditate kind of

2055
01:09:58,790 --> 01:09:57,120
get into this idea of

2056
01:10:01,030 --> 01:09:58,800
opening ourselves up to bringing these

2057
01:10:02,470 --> 01:10:01,040
things in right to be able to accept

2058
01:10:03,590 --> 01:10:02,480
whatever's coming in and ask them to

2059
01:10:06,070 --> 01:10:03,600
come

2060
01:10:07,189 --> 01:10:06,080
and and so we can see them

2061
01:10:08,550 --> 01:10:07,199
and i've been i've been talking to these

2062
01:10:09,750 --> 01:10:08,560
guys for like a week before right and

2063
01:10:10,950 --> 01:10:09,760
i'm just talking text and i'm like yeah

2064
01:10:12,310 --> 01:10:10,960
this is what i want to do

2065
01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:12,320
we're driving down i'm talking to him

2066
01:10:15,990 --> 01:10:13,920
about talking about it we get to this

2067
01:10:17,830 --> 01:10:16,000
cabin it's beautiful we all get there we

2068
01:10:19,110 --> 01:10:17,840
kind of like go up it's like

2069
01:10:20,709 --> 01:10:19,120
you know um

2070
01:10:21,990 --> 01:10:20,719
two stories but the second story's got a

2071
01:10:23,030 --> 01:10:22,000
deck that wraps all the way around it so

2072
01:10:24,790 --> 01:10:23,040
we all get up there and we're like all

2073
01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:24,800
hanging out we all get on the top deck

2074
01:10:28,870 --> 01:10:26,640
you know the deck and we're just looking

2075
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:28,880
out the beautiful blue blue sky white

2076
01:10:32,229 --> 01:10:30,719
puffy clouds and all of us see like a

2077
01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:32,239
white

2078
01:10:38,470 --> 01:10:35,360
tic tac go from one cloud like

2079
01:10:39,669 --> 01:10:38,480
to another one and everybody's like whoa

2080
01:10:42,070 --> 01:10:39,679
i was like yeah did you see that like

2081
01:10:43,590 --> 01:10:42,080
yeah we saw that everybody's like super

2082
01:10:45,189 --> 01:10:43,600
pumped right so we had like our day we

2083
01:10:46,229 --> 01:10:45,199
had dinner we all well cooked we have a

2084
01:10:48,310 --> 01:10:46,239
good time

2085
01:10:50,229 --> 01:10:48,320
we're hanging out we had a fire and i'm

2086
01:10:52,550 --> 01:10:50,239
like all right we're going to do this

2087
01:10:54,149 --> 01:10:52,560
so one of our brothers i had

2088
01:10:55,830 --> 01:10:54,159
he travels a lot and he has like just

2089
01:10:57,750 --> 01:10:55,840
this meditation music it's just like you

2090
01:10:59,110 --> 01:10:57,760
know whatever tones and

2091
01:11:00,790 --> 01:10:59,120
so he's like yeah let's do that i'm like

2092
01:11:02,709 --> 01:11:00,800
all right cool let's just turn that on

2093
01:11:03,990 --> 01:11:02,719
and like just like let's all sit around

2094
01:11:05,030 --> 01:11:04,000
we're sitting around this fire let's all

2095
01:11:07,030 --> 01:11:05,040
meditate

2096
01:11:08,470 --> 01:11:07,040
and just i said uh all i want you to do

2097
01:11:09,270 --> 01:11:08,480
is just kind of get into the mode of

2098
01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:09,280
just

2099
01:11:21,510 --> 01:11:20,320
whatever it is to come to us and

2100
01:11:23,189 --> 01:11:21,520
basically i think i don't know if i

2101
01:11:24,630 --> 01:11:23,199
where i got this from maybe maybe james

2102
01:11:26,229 --> 01:11:24,640
but basically was just

2103
01:11:27,990 --> 01:11:26,239
you know start like if you think you're

2104
01:11:29,270 --> 01:11:28,000
in google maps right and you think where

2105
01:11:30,550 --> 01:11:29,280
we're at and just go all the way up to

2106
01:11:31,910 --> 01:11:30,560
the universe

2107
01:11:33,750 --> 01:11:31,920
as far as you can and then come back

2108
01:11:35,510 --> 01:11:33,760
down and just kind of think of you know

2109
01:11:37,430 --> 01:11:35,520
kind of sending out that signal of love

2110
01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:37,440
you know that we're here

2111
01:11:40,550 --> 01:11:39,120
so we're all just sitting there you know

2112
01:11:42,310 --> 01:11:40,560
it's just quiet we're just hanging out

2113
01:11:43,430 --> 01:11:42,320
like 25 minutes goes by you know we're

2114
01:11:44,709 --> 01:11:43,440
just hanging out we're like okay cool

2115
01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:44,719
and we're sitting around and we all open

2116
01:11:47,430 --> 01:11:46,080
our eyes we're kind of looking around it

2117
01:11:48,950 --> 01:11:47,440
was like

2118
01:11:50,390 --> 01:11:48,960
ah

2119
01:11:51,669 --> 01:11:50,400
that was cool because we're all relaxed

2120
01:11:53,590 --> 01:11:51,679
we're in this chill state nothing's

2121
01:11:55,830 --> 01:11:53,600
really going on and i i bought one of

2122
01:11:57,510 --> 01:11:55,840
those psionic um

2123
01:11:59,189 --> 01:11:57,520
color night vision cameras right like

2124
01:12:00,790 --> 01:11:59,199
that you know cool like you know what

2125
01:12:02,070 --> 01:12:00,800
color is camera so i'm just like have

2126
01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:02,080
that sitting there and we're all just

2127
01:12:06,310 --> 01:12:03,120
sitting there and then all of a sudden

2128
01:12:07,590 --> 01:12:06,320
it's like boom orange orb just

2129
01:12:10,149 --> 01:12:07,600
out of nowhere

2130
01:12:11,510 --> 01:12:10,159
there's light you know there's

2131
01:12:13,110 --> 01:12:11,520
you can see planes in the background

2132
01:12:14,470 --> 01:12:13,120
flying around you know and i'm like holy

2133
01:12:16,550 --> 01:12:14,480
crap we all see with their eyes and i'm

2134
01:12:18,550 --> 01:12:16,560
looking at it too and like like i said

2135
01:12:19,910 --> 01:12:18,560
before like i filmed it for so long i

2136
01:12:21,350 --> 01:12:19,920
was just handing the camera around i'm

2137
01:12:22,630 --> 01:12:21,360
like it's the same thing we're looking

2138
01:12:25,030 --> 01:12:22,640
at but it's you know a little bit

2139
01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:25,040
enhanced and just hanging out you know

2140
01:12:28,630 --> 01:12:26,320
hanging out and they would just kind of

2141
01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:28,640
go and then kind of went over us and

2142
01:12:31,750 --> 01:12:30,000
it was amazing you know we had a great

2143
01:12:33,750 --> 01:12:31,760
night the second night same thing right

2144
01:12:35,590 --> 01:12:33,760
but second night it was just

2145
01:12:37,270 --> 01:12:35,600
more pronounced it was just slower and

2146
01:12:38,870 --> 01:12:37,280
just stopping and just hanging out and

2147
01:12:40,229 --> 01:12:38,880
stopping and hanging out it was getting

2148
01:12:41,750 --> 01:12:40,239
to the point where my arm's tired you

2149
01:12:43,669 --> 01:12:41,760
know i'm like

2150
01:12:44,390 --> 01:12:43,679
okay cool you know just hand the camera

2151
01:12:46,709 --> 01:12:44,400
out

2152
01:12:48,630 --> 01:12:46,719
and it was just a

2153
01:12:51,110 --> 01:12:48,640
calm peaceful kind of feeling where it

2154
01:12:52,870 --> 01:12:51,120
was just kind of like a hey

2155
01:12:54,149 --> 01:12:52,880
it felt like it was just kind of like

2156
01:12:55,270 --> 01:12:54,159
hey

2157
01:12:57,669 --> 01:12:55,280
you know we're kind of here we're

2158
01:12:59,270 --> 01:12:57,679
hanging out you know and um

2159
01:13:00,950 --> 01:12:59,280
it was really awesome

2160
01:13:02,390 --> 01:13:00,960
and like i said you know being a mason

2161
01:13:04,310 --> 01:13:02,400
and all those guys were just completely

2162
01:13:05,830 --> 01:13:04,320
open to like john's you know even if

2163
01:13:08,550 --> 01:13:05,840
even if internally they're going john's

2164
01:13:10,149 --> 01:13:08,560
out of his [\h__\h] mind

2165
01:13:11,910 --> 01:13:10,159
they're still into it but it's cool

2166
01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:11,920
right they're all doing it right like if

2167
01:13:15,430 --> 01:13:13,760
somebody told me to pick up a like a

2168
01:13:17,030 --> 01:13:15,440
banjo and start playing because they

2169
01:13:18,070 --> 01:13:17,040
thought it'd be cool i mean i would try

2170
01:13:20,790 --> 01:13:18,080
it because it was just fun you know

2171
01:13:23,030 --> 01:13:20,800
that's how the how we are right so that

2172
01:13:24,470 --> 01:13:23,040
that happened right like that that

2173
01:13:26,070 --> 01:13:24,480
literally happened and it was just like

2174
01:13:28,390 --> 01:13:26,080
well yeah

2175
01:13:31,110 --> 01:13:28,400
that that can happen so

2176
01:13:33,030 --> 01:13:31,120
um you know james is like the dude like

2177
01:13:34,870 --> 01:13:33,040
james has done that stuff without even

2178
01:13:36,630 --> 01:13:34,880
trying and and

2179
01:13:39,110 --> 01:13:36,640
you know um

2180
01:13:41,350 --> 01:13:39,120
any of us can do it it it the thing is

2181
01:13:42,709 --> 01:13:41,360
is that it if there's more of us i feel

2182
01:13:44,390 --> 01:13:42,719
like if there's if there's more people

2183
01:13:45,350 --> 01:13:44,400
it's more of an amplifier it's more of

2184
01:13:46,790 --> 01:13:45,360
like a

2185
01:13:48,470 --> 01:13:46,800
resonant amplifier right where you get

2186
01:13:50,470 --> 01:13:48,480
like you know four or five five you know

2187
01:13:52,310 --> 01:13:50,480
two people's better than one and four

2188
01:13:53,590 --> 01:13:52,320
and three you know whatever

2189
01:13:55,030 --> 01:13:53,600
and

2190
01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:55,040
but it's not they're i'm not saying that

2191
01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:56,400
you can't just do it by yourself you can

2192
01:14:00,470 --> 01:13:57,840
do it by yourself too

2193
01:14:02,790 --> 01:14:00,480
hey and it's just there

2194
01:14:04,709 --> 01:14:02,800
despite me i am definitely signing up to

2195
01:14:05,990 --> 01:14:04,719
go and do one of these and james uh

2196
01:14:09,110 --> 01:14:06,000
august

2197
01:14:11,189 --> 01:14:09,120
13th when i'm there in new york uh and

2198
01:14:12,950 --> 01:14:11,199
by the way he lives right across from my

2199
01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:12,960
hometown favorite restaurant like right

2200
01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:16,000
across the street uh but anyway

2201
01:14:22,310 --> 01:14:19,600
anyway deb has a concern about

2202
01:14:23,830 --> 01:14:22,320
the ce5 protocol that she's

2203
01:14:25,669 --> 01:14:23,840
expressed before so i'd like her to

2204
01:14:27,350 --> 01:14:25,679
address it with you i want to know this

2205
01:14:30,950 --> 01:14:27,360
too

2206
01:14:33,430 --> 01:14:30,960
yeah dj what which one

2207
01:14:35,910 --> 01:14:33,440
what you're calling in

2208
01:14:40,390 --> 01:14:35,920
what are you what are you summoning

2209
01:14:42,149 --> 01:14:40,400
oh yes are you summoning the devil no

2210
01:14:45,350 --> 01:14:42,159
okay no i thought you meant because of

2211
01:14:47,189 --> 01:14:45,360
the origin of the terminology and the

2212
01:14:48,390 --> 01:14:47,199
concept but no that's another concern

2213
01:14:49,750 --> 01:14:48,400
but anywho

2214
01:14:53,189 --> 01:14:49,760
oh

2215
01:14:54,790 --> 01:14:53,199
but but no it is it is a concern um

2216
01:14:57,270 --> 01:14:54,800
because

2217
01:15:01,669 --> 01:14:57,280
at times if greer shows up the next time

2218
01:15:05,990 --> 01:15:04,229
i'm just saying it again yeah if being

2219
01:15:07,590 --> 01:15:06,000
doily shows up i'm doing it every day

2220
01:15:09,590 --> 01:15:07,600
absolutely i'll just say that i've

2221
01:15:11,830 --> 01:15:09,600
already had a conversation with james

2222
01:15:14,070 --> 01:15:11,840
about career today because

2223
01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:14,080
i won't go into why but yes

2224
01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:14,880
okay

2225
01:15:19,830 --> 01:15:18,000
um so i guess my concern is sometimes

2226
01:15:22,149 --> 01:15:19,840
when i try to

2227
01:15:24,070 --> 01:15:22,159
basically communicate this is just the

2228
01:15:26,709 --> 01:15:24,080
easiest way to say it i get an

2229
01:15:28,310 --> 01:15:26,719
impression that is like a warning

2230
01:15:31,030 --> 01:15:28,320
of caution

2231
01:15:32,630 --> 01:15:31,040
um and i imagine you know i'm definitely

2232
01:15:35,270 --> 01:15:32,640
not the only one who's gotten that

2233
01:15:37,590 --> 01:15:35,280
impression i'm just being careful that

2234
01:15:40,950 --> 01:15:37,600
not everything is benevolent

2235
01:15:43,669 --> 01:15:40,960
so that would be where the concern is

2236
01:15:45,030 --> 01:15:43,679
yeah no totally i you know i mean i

2237
01:15:46,550 --> 01:15:45,040
think if

2238
01:15:48,870 --> 01:15:46,560
um

2239
01:15:49,990 --> 01:15:48,880
you know if if you go into the

2240
01:15:51,590 --> 01:15:50,000
whole

2241
01:15:53,270 --> 01:15:51,600
you're creating your reality with your

2242
01:15:55,430 --> 01:15:53,280
mind

2243
01:15:56,709 --> 01:15:55,440
avenue

2244
01:15:58,149 --> 01:15:56,719
if you want to see werewolves you're

2245
01:15:59,430 --> 01:15:58,159
going to all right if you want to see

2246
01:16:01,510 --> 01:15:59,440
angels you will if you want to see

2247
01:16:04,070 --> 01:16:01,520
demons you will if you want to see

2248
01:16:06,630 --> 01:16:05,189
i don't know how trolls you're going to

2249
01:16:08,149 --> 01:16:06,640
see you know i mean it's just kind of

2250
01:16:09,830 --> 01:16:08,159
like that whole

2251
01:16:14,310 --> 01:16:09,840
you know like it's like whatever you're

2252
01:16:18,709 --> 01:16:16,390
you know you can't put that out there

2253
01:16:20,709 --> 01:16:18,719
it's kind of it's this is this is a

2254
01:16:22,229 --> 01:16:20,719
really dumb analogy but it's perfect

2255
01:16:25,590 --> 01:16:22,239
it's like ghostbusters right it's like

2256
01:16:27,189 --> 01:16:25,600
don't think of anything it's like rey

2257
01:16:27,910 --> 01:16:27,199
this is a stupid marshmallow marshmallow

2258
01:16:30,070 --> 01:16:27,920
man

2259
01:16:33,590 --> 01:16:30,080
it's like

2260
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:33,600
literally what it is you know i i

2261
01:16:36,070 --> 01:16:34,850
literally that's like

2262
01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:36,080
[Music]

2263
01:16:40,709 --> 01:16:37,840
i don't want to see the devil well guess

2264
01:16:45,830 --> 01:16:42,470
we're not going to talk about me bigfoot

2265
01:16:50,310 --> 01:16:48,390
i've said it's also a little like we're

2266
01:16:51,990 --> 01:16:50,320
setting out a call and they may be

2267
01:16:54,470 --> 01:16:52,000
coming along going oh it's one of our

2268
01:16:56,550 --> 01:16:54,480
friends oh it's a human

2269
01:16:59,030 --> 01:16:56,560
why are they misdialing us

2270
01:17:01,990 --> 01:16:59,040
yeah right wrong number dude i'm gonna

2271
01:17:04,149 --> 01:17:02,000
teach you a lesson dave's not here man

2272
01:17:05,910 --> 01:17:04,159
yeah dave's not here

2273
01:17:14,070 --> 01:17:05,920
i'm gonna give you a sunburn you're not

2274
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,960
how to come back

2275
01:17:23,110 --> 01:17:20,070
[Music]

2276
01:17:26,870 --> 01:17:23,120
yeah no honestly john the the story that

2277
01:17:29,669 --> 01:17:26,880
you just shared it evoked in me this

2278
01:17:31,830 --> 01:17:29,679
picture of the ancient human family

2279
01:17:32,790 --> 01:17:31,840
you know out on the savannah

2280
01:17:35,030 --> 01:17:32,800
you know

2281
01:17:35,830 --> 01:17:35,040
around a fire

2282
01:17:39,510 --> 01:17:35,840
just

2283
01:17:42,070 --> 01:17:41,270
the heavens

2284
01:17:45,110 --> 01:17:42,080
and

2285
01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:45,120
the sort of

2286
01:17:49,510 --> 01:17:47,280
stories of their own lives projecting

2287
01:17:51,270 --> 01:17:49,520
those onto that

2288
01:17:54,470 --> 01:17:51,280
celestial story

2289
01:17:58,470 --> 01:17:54,480
and invite vice versa and i wonder

2290
01:18:00,630 --> 01:17:58,480
you know is there is the c5

2291
01:18:01,830 --> 01:18:00,640
you know kind of act is that something

2292
01:18:03,750 --> 01:18:01,840
that we are

2293
01:18:05,669 --> 01:18:03,760
is that kind of this

2294
01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:05,679
residue of something ancient that we

2295
01:18:09,030 --> 01:18:06,960
used to do

2296
01:18:11,669 --> 01:18:09,040
just all the time

2297
01:18:13,590 --> 01:18:11,679
and it was more alive than

2298
01:18:16,709 --> 01:18:13,600
than it is now because that's something

2299
01:18:19,910 --> 01:18:16,719
that we just did as part of our everyday

2300
01:18:26,149 --> 01:18:22,229
what are your thoughts on that yeah

2301
01:18:31,430 --> 01:18:28,709
yeah i mean obviously when anything is

2302
01:18:35,669 --> 01:18:33,430
well i mean if you take it back to that

2303
01:18:37,270 --> 01:18:35,679
point

2304
01:18:40,950 --> 01:18:37,280
those people were

2305
01:18:43,669 --> 01:18:40,960
a billion percent more connected to

2306
01:18:45,270 --> 01:18:43,679
the biosphere the ecosystem that than we

2307
01:18:46,070 --> 01:18:45,280
are right now right i mean we're sitting

2308
01:18:50,070 --> 01:18:46,080
in

2309
01:18:54,630 --> 01:18:50,080
right

2310
01:18:57,350 --> 01:18:54,640
these things and you know all this stuff

2311
01:18:58,950 --> 01:18:57,360
i mean those people had like dirt

2312
01:19:01,030 --> 01:18:58,960
caked in places that they're never going

2313
01:19:04,310 --> 01:19:01,040
to get out right

2314
01:19:05,110 --> 01:19:04,320
they're living like they were living in

2315
01:19:10,310 --> 01:19:05,120
in

2316
01:19:12,470 --> 01:19:10,320
we do

2317
01:19:13,990 --> 01:19:12,480
you know exponentially right we kind of

2318
01:19:15,350 --> 01:19:14,000
ah we're going to go on vacation or

2319
01:19:17,750 --> 01:19:15,360
we're going to go out in the backyard do

2320
01:19:19,510 --> 01:19:17,760
a slip and slide and oops i got dirt in

2321
01:19:21,350 --> 01:19:19,520
my mouth like you know but these people

2322
01:19:23,270 --> 01:19:21,360
like live that right

2323
01:19:25,350 --> 01:19:23,280
so when i think when you're connected to

2324
01:19:27,510 --> 01:19:25,360
that you have a greater

2325
01:19:29,189 --> 01:19:27,520
connection to it right and so like when

2326
01:19:30,310 --> 01:19:29,199
i think when we were out where we were

2327
01:19:32,470 --> 01:19:30,320
out

2328
01:19:34,390 --> 01:19:32,480
in the middle of nowhere

2329
01:19:35,830 --> 01:19:34,400
literally like

2330
01:19:37,590 --> 01:19:35,840
and it's funny about this is ian dooley

2331
01:19:39,350 --> 01:19:37,600
if he's still here or not i remember him

2332
01:19:41,590 --> 01:19:39,360
calling me because like i remember him

2333
01:19:43,110 --> 01:19:41,600
calling me like non-stop and it was like

2334
01:19:45,430 --> 01:19:43,120
i can't remember what it was going on

2335
01:19:47,350 --> 01:19:45,440
but it was like something got released

2336
01:19:49,030 --> 01:19:47,360
it was like a big deal right and we were

2337
01:19:50,630 --> 01:19:49,040
down there and like i didn't have any

2338
01:19:51,590 --> 01:19:50,640
celsius like did you see what happened

2339
01:19:53,270 --> 01:19:51,600
i'm like

2340
01:19:56,149 --> 01:19:53,280
dude i'm on a mountaintop with my hand

2341
01:19:57,830 --> 01:19:56,159
on a tree what the [\h__\h]

2342
01:19:59,030 --> 01:19:57,840
he's like it was a thing and i can't i

2343
01:20:00,470 --> 01:19:59,040
literally can't remember what it is now

2344
01:20:01,590 --> 01:20:00,480
but it was a big deal it literally was a

2345
01:20:03,350 --> 01:20:01,600
big deal and it was like there was a

2346
01:20:04,390 --> 01:20:03,360
thing and i'm like holding onto a tree

2347
01:20:06,950 --> 01:20:04,400
and i'm like

2348
01:20:08,149 --> 01:20:06,960
talking about he was like oh yeah but he

2349
01:20:09,510 --> 01:20:08,159
called me because that was red and i

2350
01:20:11,910 --> 01:20:09,520
appreciated he called me but like you

2351
01:20:14,390 --> 01:20:11,920
know what i mean like i was that far out

2352
01:20:16,229 --> 01:20:14,400
so i was kind of like

2353
01:20:18,070 --> 01:20:16,239
more connected to that and i think

2354
01:20:19,590 --> 01:20:18,080
really

2355
01:20:21,669 --> 01:20:19,600
we miss that

2356
01:20:23,189 --> 01:20:21,679
i think a majority of people miss that

2357
01:20:24,790 --> 01:20:23,199
you know i mean i think it's amazing

2358
01:20:27,430 --> 01:20:24,800
that i can talk to all of you i can talk

2359
01:20:29,510 --> 01:20:27,440
to the world from where i'm sitting but

2360
01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:29,520
i think that we're losing our connection

2361
01:20:32,390 --> 01:20:31,360
to like

2362
01:20:36,229 --> 01:20:32,400
nature

2363
01:20:37,990 --> 01:20:36,239
yeah and uh and

2364
01:20:41,030 --> 01:20:38,000
i'm like i don't like bugs and i don't

2365
01:20:43,270 --> 01:20:41,040
like hanging out outside but

2366
01:20:45,910 --> 01:20:43,280
i know i recognize this and i recognize

2367
01:20:47,910 --> 01:20:45,920
that it's a deal and i feel better when

2368
01:20:49,430 --> 01:20:47,920
i'm out there i feel better when i'm

2369
01:20:51,510 --> 01:20:49,440
when i'm in it and experiencing it and

2370
01:20:54,149 --> 01:20:51,520
the sun's in my face and dirty and i'm

2371
01:20:56,229 --> 01:20:54,159
hanging out and just having fun and

2372
01:20:57,750 --> 01:20:56,239
i think that's a thing i really do think

2373
01:20:59,750 --> 01:20:57,760
that's the thing and i think that more

2374
01:21:02,070 --> 01:20:59,760
of us need to do that

2375
01:21:04,790 --> 01:21:02,080
well then i seek your counsel uh john

2376
01:21:07,110 --> 01:21:04,800
because uh nathan is very aware of this

2377
01:21:08,310 --> 01:21:07,120
flair is very aware of this deb is very

2378
01:21:10,149 --> 01:21:08,320
aware of this

2379
01:21:12,149 --> 01:21:10,159
that i often

2380
01:21:15,189 --> 01:21:12,159
uh will send them a message when i'm on

2381
01:21:17,350 --> 01:21:15,199
my hikes which occur you know probably

2382
01:21:20,390 --> 01:21:17,360
three times a week or so

2383
01:21:22,550 --> 01:21:20,400
and i'm wondering if i can summon

2384
01:21:25,750 --> 01:21:22,560
sasquatch or bigfoot

2385
01:21:28,229 --> 01:21:25,760
to come and say hello to me and the dogs

2386
01:21:30,070 --> 01:21:28,239
and nathan is worried that i'm going to

2387
01:21:31,669 --> 01:21:30,080
become sort of like

2388
01:21:33,669 --> 01:21:31,679
you know an hors d'oeuvre

2389
01:21:35,350 --> 01:21:33,679
you know maybe don't bring the dogs the

2390
01:21:36,070 --> 01:21:35,360
dogs are like a snack in my mind that's

2391
01:21:38,149 --> 01:21:36,080
something

2392
01:21:40,310 --> 01:21:38,159
don't blame this you know yeah yeah like

2393
01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:40,320
a little shrimp purse yeah

2394
01:21:44,470 --> 01:21:42,480
you don't need to you don't need to

2395
01:21:46,550 --> 01:21:44,480
bring that [\h__\h] in there like just leave

2396
01:21:48,550 --> 01:21:46,560
the dogs at home and hang out

2397
01:21:50,709 --> 01:21:48,560
so what's your what's

2398
01:21:54,390 --> 01:21:50,719
what's your thought about

2399
01:21:57,270 --> 01:21:54,400
um how i can summon an interaction with

2400
01:21:59,990 --> 01:21:57,280
bigfoot and whether or not i should

2401
01:22:01,350 --> 01:22:00,000
and james also feel flip free to weigh

2402
01:22:03,430 --> 01:22:01,360
on the end of this in the chat and by

2403
01:22:04,870 --> 01:22:03,440
the way debs if you can pick a question

2404
01:22:05,910 --> 01:22:04,880
out of the chat for john that would be

2405
01:22:09,350 --> 01:22:05,920
awesome

2406
01:22:13,830 --> 01:22:11,189
uh

2407
01:22:15,030 --> 01:22:13,840
someone whatever the hell you want

2408
01:22:20,550 --> 01:22:15,040
i mean

2409
01:22:23,110 --> 01:22:20,560
nickianna jones is a cool chick and her

2410
01:22:25,750 --> 01:22:23,120
and i've spoken a lot you know look at

2411
01:22:26,950 --> 01:22:25,760
she was like what [\h__\h] jones is rad

2412
01:22:28,310 --> 01:22:26,960
she hit me up out of nowhere and i was

2413
01:22:31,270 --> 01:22:28,320
like hey let's talk and i'm like who are

2414
01:22:32,709 --> 01:22:31,280
you and she's like i'm i'm like cool

2415
01:22:34,950 --> 01:22:32,719
so

2416
01:22:36,550 --> 01:22:34,960
she's she's she's amazing she's had

2417
01:22:39,910 --> 01:22:36,560
experiences that just still boggled my

2418
01:22:44,550 --> 01:22:39,920
mind but she went to peru or i don't

2419
01:22:48,550 --> 01:22:45,910
she told listen to the story about her

2420
01:22:50,790 --> 01:22:48,560
seeing a unicorn that exists

2421
01:22:55,430 --> 01:22:50,800
i don't know but she saw one

2422
01:22:59,110 --> 01:22:57,830
during the archives of the impossible

2423
01:23:02,310 --> 01:22:59,120
valley did talk about it where they

2424
01:23:04,709 --> 01:23:02,320
genetically manipulated a goat to grow a

2425
01:23:06,070 --> 01:23:04,719
single horn out of its head in the 70s

2426
01:23:07,350 --> 01:23:06,080
and they took it around and people were

2427
01:23:08,790 --> 01:23:07,360
like that doesn't that's not real and

2428
01:23:10,470 --> 01:23:08,800
they're like yeah it's real and even

2429
01:23:11,590 --> 01:23:10,480
geneticists were like we're like no

2430
01:23:13,669 --> 01:23:11,600
that's not real they're like yeah it's

2431
01:23:16,229 --> 01:23:13,679
real but they genetically manipulated a

2432
01:23:17,750 --> 01:23:16,239
goat to have a a unicorn horn but yeah

2433
01:23:19,350 --> 01:23:17,760
she saw one that was like a more of a

2434
01:23:22,070 --> 01:23:19,360
majestic white horse running through the

2435
01:23:24,790 --> 01:23:22,080
thing i don't know but um so yeah i mean

2436
01:23:26,709 --> 01:23:24,800
you could you could literally

2437
01:23:28,229 --> 01:23:26,719
if you have enough passion

2438
01:23:29,750 --> 01:23:28,239
in it and

2439
01:23:31,350 --> 01:23:29,760
and you really want to do i mean you can

2440
01:23:33,430 --> 01:23:31,360
see whatever the hell you want

2441
01:23:34,709 --> 01:23:33,440
and and that's where like the archons

2442
01:23:36,149 --> 01:23:34,719
and all those weird things that happens

2443
01:23:37,830 --> 01:23:36,159
like chris bledsoe and like all this

2444
01:23:39,510 --> 01:23:37,840
stuff and the white lady

2445
01:23:42,870 --> 01:23:39,520
and like the you know the white lady's

2446
01:23:44,470 --> 01:23:42,880
been seen by a bunch of people and doily

2447
01:23:46,070 --> 01:23:44,480
and a bunch of other you know like

2448
01:23:47,430 --> 01:23:46,080
whatever

2449
01:23:48,709 --> 01:23:47,440
james i don't know

2450
01:23:50,870 --> 01:23:48,719
but you know what i mean like they're

2451
01:23:53,990 --> 01:23:50,880
she's everywhere right and she's she's

2452
01:23:55,110 --> 01:23:54,000
hath or she's she's ayanna she's she's

2453
01:23:57,270 --> 01:23:55,120
you know she's the goddess she's the

2454
01:23:59,030 --> 01:23:57,280
virgin mary she's everything everywhere

2455
01:24:00,070 --> 01:23:59,040
right and and i don't know if that's a

2456
01:24:01,189 --> 01:24:00,080
uh

2457
01:24:02,470 --> 01:24:01,199
connection to the earth i don't know if

2458
01:24:03,990 --> 01:24:02,480
she's gaia i don't know she's the mother

2459
01:24:05,590 --> 01:24:04,000
earth i don't know if she's that thing

2460
01:24:06,629 --> 01:24:05,600
and that people see her i saw her she

2461
01:24:08,870 --> 01:24:06,639
came to me

2462
01:24:11,189 --> 01:24:08,880
i was a little bit upset um

2463
01:24:15,110 --> 01:24:12,790
yeah i mean i think that's a thing where

2464
01:24:16,470 --> 01:24:15,120
if you want to see her you know and

2465
01:24:18,950 --> 01:24:16,480
i only

2466
01:24:20,870 --> 01:24:18,960
saw her after i had a

2467
01:24:23,110 --> 01:24:20,880
inclination

2468
01:24:25,350 --> 01:24:23,120
that

2469
01:24:26,790 --> 01:24:25,360
she was there well i was just whatever

2470
01:24:27,910 --> 01:24:26,800
but

2471
01:24:29,910 --> 01:24:27,920
you know it's like one of those things

2472
01:24:32,629 --> 01:24:29,920
where it's like if you don't even

2473
01:24:34,790 --> 01:24:32,639
entertain the idea that something's real

2474
01:24:36,790 --> 01:24:34,800
it never will be real but if you focus

2475
01:24:39,270 --> 01:24:36,800
on that thing it's like i really think

2476
01:24:42,790 --> 01:24:39,280
this is real and i'm gonna see it

2477
01:24:45,189 --> 01:24:42,800
then you maybe manifest it into reality

2478
01:24:47,110 --> 01:24:45,199
well about gaia i want to say thank you

2479
01:24:48,950 --> 01:24:47,120
to to gaia because i think they've

2480
01:24:51,830 --> 01:24:48,960
created what i would consider a very

2481
01:24:54,470 --> 01:24:51,840
low-cost uh quality yoga mat so i want

2482
01:24:58,149 --> 01:24:54,480
to say thank you to to guy for creating

2483
01:24:59,910 --> 01:24:58,159
that i appreciate that

2484
01:25:01,350 --> 01:24:59,920
and also i want to say i want to correct

2485
01:25:03,830 --> 01:25:01,360
the record here

2486
01:25:05,350 --> 01:25:03,840
you deb and i were on a talk space

2487
01:25:07,990 --> 01:25:05,360
together but when you and i had our

2488
01:25:09,750 --> 01:25:08,000
conversation it was on zoom and deb was

2489
01:25:13,270 --> 01:25:09,760
not there for that that was just you and

2490
01:25:15,110 --> 01:25:13,280
i i said was doing this no you were not

2491
01:25:16,709 --> 01:25:15,120
no you were not you had a wave in the

2492
01:25:17,669 --> 01:25:16,719
background your background was a wave

2493
01:25:20,470 --> 01:25:17,679
because you were hanging out with your

2494
01:25:21,990 --> 01:25:20,480
high school thing i was there what

2495
01:25:24,310 --> 01:25:22,000
yeah your high school reading i couldn't

2496
01:25:26,070 --> 01:25:24,320
stay long dj remember i had to go

2497
01:25:29,830 --> 01:25:26,080
because i was getting ready to do an

2498
01:25:33,189 --> 01:25:31,189
with me

2499
01:25:35,110 --> 01:25:33,199
yeah on the okay i didn't even know i

2500
01:25:37,030 --> 01:25:35,120
had this program yet i thought it was

2501
01:25:38,629 --> 01:25:37,040
done on zoom but anyway

2502
01:25:40,390 --> 01:25:38,639
we have a question from the chat for

2503
01:25:42,629 --> 01:25:40,400
john because we got to let people have

2504
01:25:45,189 --> 01:25:42,639
at least one as long as it's not some

2505
01:25:46,550 --> 01:25:45,199
idiotic question i want 13 of them go

2506
01:25:50,149 --> 01:25:46,560
for it

2507
01:25:53,990 --> 01:25:50,159
okay so i had to go for a non-et's

2508
01:25:56,470 --> 01:25:54,000
question because it has to do with data

2509
01:25:59,030 --> 01:25:56,480
it says could someone please ask john

2510
01:26:02,070 --> 01:25:59,040
some good objective sources to learn

2511
01:26:07,430 --> 01:26:02,080
about masons

2512
01:26:12,390 --> 01:26:09,590
that was easy uh i think you have time

2513
01:26:14,629 --> 01:26:12,400
for another question yeah yes

2514
01:26:16,550 --> 01:26:14,639
that was way too fast okay hold on there

2515
01:26:18,870 --> 01:26:16,560
was another one we could get we could

2516
01:26:21,350 --> 01:26:18,880
get the flare or yourself back in there

2517
01:26:23,990 --> 01:26:21,360
there you go i did have another one that

2518
01:26:27,110 --> 01:26:24,000
i think is sort of relative um how can

2519
01:26:29,590 --> 01:26:27,120
you protect people from

2520
01:26:32,629 --> 01:26:29,600
uh people who are fraudulent about being

2521
01:26:34,790 --> 01:26:32,639
masons like how how do we know someone's

2522
01:26:36,870 --> 01:26:34,800
genuinely amazing

2523
01:26:39,510 --> 01:26:36,880
ooh all right that's a good question i

2524
01:26:41,270 --> 01:26:39,520
should speak clear a free mason yes oh

2525
01:26:44,229 --> 01:26:41,280
yeah well no that's a really good

2526
01:26:46,310 --> 01:26:44,239
question um so we know each other

2527
01:26:48,149 --> 01:26:46,320
through signs symbols

2528
01:26:52,629 --> 01:26:48,159
and um

2529
01:26:56,709 --> 01:26:54,470
that's a really quick great question you

2530
01:26:58,550 --> 01:26:56,719
know asking where lodger at ask them

2531
01:26:59,910 --> 01:26:58,560
what what lodge you're a member of you

2532
01:27:01,189 --> 01:26:59,920
know ask him what year they became a

2533
01:27:02,830 --> 01:27:01,199
mason

2534
01:27:05,830 --> 01:27:02,840
ask him you know

2535
01:27:07,030 --> 01:27:05,840
um you know game three brothers you know

2536
01:27:08,870 --> 01:27:07,040
things like that you know things like

2537
01:27:10,709 --> 01:27:08,880
that um

2538
01:27:13,270 --> 01:27:10,719
it it's uh you know show me your dues

2539
01:27:14,310 --> 01:27:13,280
card you know like

2540
01:27:16,629 --> 01:27:14,320
i don't know i got a couple of them

2541
01:27:21,669 --> 01:27:16,639
laying here oh show me this

2542
01:27:24,390 --> 01:27:23,189
i should need to study are you accepting

2543
01:27:25,189 --> 01:27:24,400
members

2544
01:27:26,790 --> 01:27:25,199
uh

2545
01:27:28,550 --> 01:27:26,800
they're all we're always accepting

2546
01:27:29,910 --> 01:27:28,560
members wow

2547
01:27:32,709 --> 01:27:29,920
yeah we're always accepting members so

2548
01:27:34,709 --> 01:27:32,719
that's the thing like it's sad about

2549
01:27:37,110 --> 01:27:34,719
freemasonry it's sad and awesome at the

2550
01:27:38,709 --> 01:27:37,120
same time where

2551
01:27:41,669 --> 01:27:38,719
last year

2552
01:27:43,590 --> 01:27:41,679
maybe two years ago the um every year

2553
01:27:45,030 --> 01:27:43,600
the

2554
01:27:47,510 --> 01:27:45,040
head of masons of

2555
01:27:49,110 --> 01:27:47,520
ohio or every other state has like their

2556
01:27:50,310 --> 01:27:49,120
theme right where they're like okay this

2557
01:27:51,669 --> 01:27:50,320
is their favorite masonry and they have

2558
01:27:54,229 --> 01:27:51,679
like they put it on a pin and everybody

2559
01:27:55,590 --> 01:27:54,239
gets a pen you know oh you got a pin and

2560
01:27:57,189 --> 01:27:55,600
a couple years ago was like replace

2561
01:27:59,590 --> 01:27:57,199
yourself

2562
01:28:01,350 --> 01:27:59,600
and i was like oh wow so like we're

2563
01:28:02,629 --> 01:28:01,360
never allowed to recruit right we're

2564
01:28:04,550 --> 01:28:02,639
never allowed to be like hey you should

2565
01:28:06,310 --> 01:28:04,560
be a freebasing because that's like goes

2566
01:28:08,229 --> 01:28:06,320
against everything that we're through so

2567
01:28:09,910 --> 01:28:08,239
so it's like if it's so

2568
01:28:11,270 --> 01:28:09,920
it's pretty universal it's like to be

2569
01:28:13,590 --> 01:28:11,280
one ask one right it's like if you want

2570
01:28:15,189 --> 01:28:13,600
to be a mason ask a mason like hey can i

2571
01:28:17,189 --> 01:28:15,199
be a freemason right

2572
01:28:18,390 --> 01:28:17,199
um yeah cool you know like talk about it

2573
01:28:20,550 --> 01:28:18,400
like so we're not just going out there

2574
01:28:22,470 --> 01:28:20,560
like hey you'd be a great guy to join

2575
01:28:24,070 --> 01:28:22,480
the mormons or you know like we're not

2576
01:28:25,510 --> 01:28:24,080
those guys that show up and you're like

2577
01:28:26,629 --> 01:28:25,520
you know like sorry i'm picking on the

2578
01:28:28,950 --> 01:28:26,639
mormons but you know what i mean like

2579
01:28:31,270 --> 01:28:28,960
they're coming door-to-door like

2580
01:28:33,030 --> 01:28:31,280
yeah i'm here to make an offer yeah yeah

2581
01:28:34,870 --> 01:28:33,040
i'll come here you get a get a free

2582
01:28:37,030 --> 01:28:34,880
fruit cake and you know no like we're

2583
01:28:38,629 --> 01:28:37,040
not doing any of that [\h__\h] right

2584
01:28:40,390 --> 01:28:38,639
like green street's gonna be upset with

2585
01:28:42,950 --> 01:28:40,400
all these mormon comments is green

2586
01:28:44,550 --> 01:28:42,960
street mormon yeah he was i don't think

2587
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:44,560
he is currently but

2588
01:28:47,990 --> 01:28:45,770
oh really

2589
01:28:48,870 --> 01:28:48,000
[Music]

2590
01:28:50,390 --> 01:28:48,880
wow

2591
01:28:52,550 --> 01:28:50,400
i could write that down

2592
01:28:57,350 --> 01:28:52,560
um so uh

2593
01:28:58,470 --> 01:28:57,360
anyhow uh so yeah so um yeah no no so we

2594
01:29:00,390 --> 01:28:58,480
so we don't recruit at all but i mean

2595
01:29:01,830 --> 01:29:00,400
like it was like so because there's so

2596
01:29:03,030 --> 01:29:01,840
many guys that are like

2597
01:29:06,229 --> 01:29:03,040
in

2598
01:29:08,149 --> 01:29:06,239
so like the world war ii um

2599
01:29:09,750 --> 01:29:08,159
those guys were like a lot of masons and

2600
01:29:12,390 --> 01:29:09,760
things like that and there was all that

2601
01:29:14,149 --> 01:29:12,400
whole rebellion 60s 70s like um screw

2602
01:29:15,590 --> 01:29:14,159
that i'm not doing what my dad did i'm

2603
01:29:18,310 --> 01:29:15,600
not going to be a freemason because

2604
01:29:19,669 --> 01:29:18,320
forget it oh wait a minute like three

2605
01:29:21,030 --> 01:29:19,679
four generations of us have been

2606
01:29:22,550 --> 01:29:21,040
racing's like yeah but i'm not doing

2607
01:29:25,830 --> 01:29:22,560
that

2608
01:29:27,590 --> 01:29:25,840
whole thing right and then it was kind

2609
01:29:29,590 --> 01:29:27,600
of like oh you guys are illuminati and

2610
01:29:31,669 --> 01:29:29,600
you're just sacrificing kids and

2611
01:29:33,510 --> 01:29:31,679
worshiping the devil and like all this

2612
01:29:34,629 --> 01:29:33,520
other crap that's been going on and

2613
01:29:36,310 --> 01:29:34,639
everybody's like i don't want anything

2614
01:29:39,110 --> 01:29:36,320
to do with that so there was like this

2615
01:29:40,950 --> 01:29:39,120
whole wave of of guys that were that

2616
01:29:42,870 --> 01:29:40,960
we're just we're not joining or not even

2617
01:29:44,310 --> 01:29:42,880
interested in it right so a lot of

2618
01:29:46,790 --> 01:29:44,320
lodges closed a lot of lodges

2619
01:29:48,310 --> 01:29:46,800
consolidated a lot of it's it's been

2620
01:29:50,629 --> 01:29:48,320
shrinking the amount of numbers you know

2621
01:29:52,709 --> 01:29:50,639
it was like a bigger number

2622
01:29:55,270 --> 01:29:52,719
and it's just really kind of diminishing

2623
01:29:57,030 --> 01:29:55,280
now but honestly it's like you know we

2624
01:29:58,790 --> 01:29:57,040
don't recruit you know we're not asking

2625
01:30:00,870 --> 01:29:58,800
anybody but it was interesting to see a

2626
01:30:03,270 --> 01:30:00,880
couple years ago where like replace

2627
01:30:05,430 --> 01:30:03,280
yourself right so like

2628
01:30:06,950 --> 01:30:05,440
it kind of it kind of like hit home for

2629
01:30:09,110 --> 01:30:06,960
a lot of the older guys

2630
01:30:11,270 --> 01:30:09,120
they were like eh you know not gonna be

2631
01:30:12,470 --> 01:30:11,280
here because like if you don't if you if

2632
01:30:14,229 --> 01:30:12,480
you don't have the tradition and you

2633
01:30:15,510 --> 01:30:14,239
don't keep going with it like it dies

2634
01:30:17,990 --> 01:30:15,520
right it's just one of those things that

2635
01:30:19,270 --> 01:30:18,000
just fades away and from my research and

2636
01:30:20,470 --> 01:30:19,280
this i'm just gonna put this out here i

2637
01:30:23,110 --> 01:30:20,480
mean i'm sure you could probably read

2638
01:30:28,310 --> 01:30:23,120
about it one of my future books but

2639
01:30:32,950 --> 01:30:31,030
from all walks of life

2640
01:30:35,430 --> 01:30:32,960
have hidden symbology

2641
01:30:37,030 --> 01:30:35,440
and allegory and some

2642
01:30:39,030 --> 01:30:37,040
within masonry

2643
01:30:40,629 --> 01:30:39,040
so the egyptian mystery schools the you

2644
01:30:42,470 --> 01:30:40,639
know sumerians like

2645
01:30:43,910 --> 01:30:42,480
from time to memoriam right have have

2646
01:30:45,110 --> 01:30:43,920
hidden a little bit of it where it's

2647
01:30:47,110 --> 01:30:45,120
like

2648
01:30:48,310 --> 01:30:47,120
hey these people are attacking us and

2649
01:30:49,430 --> 01:30:48,320
they're going to kill our whole way of

2650
01:30:50,629 --> 01:30:49,440
life we have this whole mystery school

2651
01:30:52,310 --> 01:30:50,639
okay boom

2652
01:30:53,590 --> 01:30:52,320
we have that and we take that with us

2653
01:30:55,669 --> 01:30:53,600
and that's kind of gone out through

2654
01:30:56,709 --> 01:30:55,679
history and i think that masonry in some

2655
01:30:59,430 --> 01:30:56,719
regard

2656
01:31:01,350 --> 01:30:59,440
has kept a lot of those ancient

2657
01:31:02,790 --> 01:31:01,360
mystery schools alive

2658
01:31:04,870 --> 01:31:02,800
right throughout history and just kind

2659
01:31:07,510 --> 01:31:04,880
of kept it going so it'd be really

2660
01:31:09,830 --> 01:31:07,520
really horrible now in the 21st century

2661
01:31:11,189 --> 01:31:09,840
to see that

2662
01:31:12,709 --> 01:31:11,199
you know just completely fall to the

2663
01:31:14,550 --> 01:31:12,719
wayside i mean there's documentation and

2664
01:31:17,669 --> 01:31:14,560
all those things out there but still

2665
01:31:20,070 --> 01:31:17,679
so yeah we don't recruit but we

2666
01:31:21,270 --> 01:31:20,080
definitely need people and it's been

2667
01:31:22,870 --> 01:31:21,280
awesome because i've had a lot of people

2668
01:31:24,390 --> 01:31:22,880
reach out to me just from my channel and

2669
01:31:26,149 --> 01:31:24,400
just from knowing me and doing you know

2670
01:31:27,750 --> 01:31:26,159
shows like yours and things like they're

2671
01:31:29,110 --> 01:31:27,760
like yeah how do i join masonry and i

2672
01:31:31,350 --> 01:31:29,120
you know i set them up like hey be at

2673
01:31:32,870 --> 01:31:31,360
freemason.org check it out there's like

2674
01:31:35,270 --> 01:31:32,880
a whole wealth of information there

2675
01:31:36,790 --> 01:31:35,280
there's like uh you know like you know

2676
01:31:38,470 --> 01:31:36,800
is this for you is this something you're

2677
01:31:40,229 --> 01:31:38,480
interested in if not whatever talk to

2678
01:31:41,830 --> 01:31:40,239
somebody and dude i'm always open if

2679
01:31:43,189 --> 01:31:41,840
somebody wants to talk to me

2680
01:31:45,590 --> 01:31:43,199
i'll tell you straight up what's going

2681
01:31:47,990 --> 01:31:45,600
on you know i'm not i'm not beating

2682
01:31:50,070 --> 01:31:48,000
around the bush i'll tell you legit what

2683
01:31:51,350 --> 01:31:50,080
it did for me what it what it does for

2684
01:31:53,430 --> 01:31:51,360
you and it might not be for everybody

2685
01:31:55,750 --> 01:31:53,440
it's literally not for everybody right

2686
01:31:57,990 --> 01:31:55,760
but if you're into it and you want to

2687
01:31:59,110 --> 01:31:58,000
make yourself a better human and you

2688
01:32:00,709 --> 01:31:59,120
want to

2689
01:32:03,590 --> 01:32:00,719
open yourself up to a bunch of stuff

2690
01:32:05,430 --> 01:32:03,600
that maybe you not were

2691
01:32:07,350 --> 01:32:05,440
you know

2692
01:32:08,790 --> 01:32:07,360
even thinking about before then cool do

2693
01:32:10,790 --> 01:32:08,800
it but if not

2694
01:32:13,750 --> 01:32:10,800
you know i mean the first

2695
01:32:15,990 --> 01:32:13,760
third party in american political system

2696
01:32:18,790 --> 01:32:16,000
was the anti-masonic party

2697
01:32:20,790 --> 01:32:18,800
all right so let that sink in

2698
01:32:22,310 --> 01:32:20,800
right like they had to have like a third

2699
01:32:24,629 --> 01:32:22,320
party who was like well this guy's a

2700
01:32:26,390 --> 01:32:24,639
freemason and this guy's a friend

2701
01:32:28,470 --> 01:32:26,400
we're gonna just run on the anti-masonic

2702
01:32:30,709 --> 01:32:28,480
party

2703
01:32:33,270 --> 01:32:30,719
this been uh super duper interesting

2704
01:32:35,189 --> 01:32:33,280
john i i after that conversation with

2705
01:32:38,229 --> 01:32:35,199
you that deb either was or wasn't at we

2706
01:32:41,910 --> 01:32:39,350
uh

2707
01:32:44,149 --> 01:32:41,920
i i just said man this is a guy we just

2708
01:32:46,390 --> 01:32:44,159
have to have on the show and i contacted

2709
01:32:48,550 --> 01:32:46,400
the cabbies and said gotta get this guy

2710
01:32:50,310 --> 01:32:48,560
on man he is so cool he's cooler than

2711
01:32:51,830 --> 01:32:50,320
the other side of the pillow and the

2712
01:32:53,430 --> 01:32:51,840
other side of the pillow is sitting on a

2713
01:32:54,870 --> 01:32:53,440
block of ice

2714
01:32:57,510 --> 01:32:54,880
so

2715
01:32:59,750 --> 01:32:57,520
i'm cooler than a polar bear's toenails

2716
01:33:01,350 --> 01:32:59,760
you are i'll tell you what man you live

2717
01:33:03,990 --> 01:33:01,360
you you lived up to

2718
01:33:06,149 --> 01:33:04,000
to the building um so i'm making that up

2719
01:33:10,950 --> 01:33:06,159
man no i'm sorry man

2720
01:33:15,110 --> 01:33:13,110
this is how we got to do it man

2721
01:33:16,709 --> 01:33:15,120
but go ahead let me let the cabbie say

2722
01:33:18,629 --> 01:33:16,719
goodbye uh

2723
01:33:20,709 --> 01:33:18,639
dean martin of ufology i love you guys

2724
01:33:22,790 --> 01:33:20,719
and i really like seriously i'm i'm

2725
01:33:24,470 --> 01:33:22,800
always game to like whatever just hit me

2726
01:33:26,229 --> 01:33:24,480
up

2727
01:33:28,870 --> 01:33:26,239
we want a round two are you willing to

2728
01:33:30,950 --> 01:33:28,880
say yes to that right now oh my gosh i

2729
01:33:32,950 --> 01:33:30,960
gotta ask i gotta ask my agent

2730
01:33:35,030 --> 01:33:32,960
is he still there okay

2731
01:33:37,350 --> 01:33:35,040
yeah

2732
01:33:41,030 --> 01:33:37,360
oh my god what's your favorite james

2733
01:33:44,149 --> 01:33:41,040
back too hint hit james yeah

2734
01:33:47,669 --> 01:33:44,159
love is the answer get back over here

2735
01:33:52,790 --> 01:33:49,430
no seriously guys like seriously give me

2736
01:33:53,990 --> 01:33:52,800
the wildest question you got right now

2737
01:33:55,110 --> 01:33:54,000
oh

2738
01:33:57,750 --> 01:33:55,120
okay

2739
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:03,669
oh my gosh uh while this question

2740
01:34:06,629 --> 01:34:05,510
i have a wild one i can throw out real

2741
01:34:07,430 --> 01:34:06,639
quick do it

2742
01:34:10,870 --> 01:34:07,440
do it

2743
01:34:13,270 --> 01:34:10,880
melon free mason yes or no

2744
01:34:14,550 --> 01:34:13,280
did you see my video i did see that yeah

2745
01:34:16,950 --> 01:34:14,560
yes we did

2746
01:34:19,430 --> 01:34:16,960
i asked him

2747
01:34:21,669 --> 01:34:19,440
he doesn't respond

2748
01:34:23,990 --> 01:34:21,679
but it means par for the course for yeah

2749
01:34:27,350 --> 01:34:24,000
yeah but i mean you know what i mean

2750
01:34:29,430 --> 01:34:27,360
i'm being a completely

2751
01:34:31,030 --> 01:34:29,440
uh sympathetic and untruthful here like

2752
01:34:32,550 --> 01:34:31,040
he's doing something he's sticking his

2753
01:34:34,229 --> 01:34:32,560
neck out right

2754
01:34:35,750 --> 01:34:34,239
right he's really sticking his eye out

2755
01:34:39,030 --> 01:34:35,760
for doing what he's doing

2756
01:34:41,350 --> 01:34:39,040
and to put that stamp on him right now

2757
01:34:43,350 --> 01:34:41,360
would just [\h__\h] him up

2758
01:34:45,350 --> 01:34:43,360
i mean publicly you know what i mean

2759
01:34:47,350 --> 01:34:45,360
because you have that whole side of

2760
01:34:49,270 --> 01:34:47,360
everybody that's like we knew it

2761
01:34:51,270 --> 01:34:49,280
freemasons are running everything and

2762
01:34:54,149 --> 01:34:51,280
it's the illuminati and they're right

2763
01:34:55,910 --> 01:34:54,159
devil worshipers and their other evil

2764
01:34:58,790 --> 01:34:55,920
you know you have all those people and

2765
01:35:03,030 --> 01:35:00,709
few people like me who give a [\h__\h]

2766
01:35:05,430 --> 01:35:03,040
they're like yeah cool brother i'm there

2767
01:35:07,669 --> 01:35:05,440
to help you you know so like to him that

2768
01:35:08,950 --> 01:35:07,679
and same thing with tom right the the

2769
01:35:12,390 --> 01:35:08,960
same thing like

2770
01:35:14,709 --> 01:35:12,400
it just hurts him because of all the um

2771
01:35:17,189 --> 01:35:14,719
stigma and all the [\h__\h] that's out

2772
01:35:18,390 --> 01:35:17,199
there about masonry right it's just

2773
01:35:19,669 --> 01:35:18,400
everybody thinks we're the devil

2774
01:35:21,430 --> 01:35:19,679
everybody thinks we're doing some evil

2775
01:35:23,189 --> 01:35:21,440
[\h__\h] with running the government like i

2776
01:35:25,910 --> 01:35:23,199
wish i was running everything i honestly

2777
01:35:28,790 --> 01:35:25,920
do i'm not running [\h__\h]

2778
01:35:29,510 --> 01:35:28,800
so like i totally get it but if he was i

2779
01:35:31,750 --> 01:35:29,520
mean

2780
01:35:33,510 --> 01:35:31,760
if he was in my heart

2781
01:35:35,109 --> 01:35:33,520
i would feel happy because he's doing

2782
01:35:36,310 --> 01:35:35,119
the right thing

2783
01:35:37,270 --> 01:35:36,320
at least i hope he's doing the right

2784
01:35:38,870 --> 01:35:37,280
thing

2785
01:35:39,590 --> 01:35:38,880
following the tenets of freemasonry

2786
01:35:43,030 --> 01:35:39,600
right

2787
01:35:45,830 --> 01:35:43,040
brotherly love relief and truth

2788
01:35:48,950 --> 01:35:45,840
it makes me sad the stigma man

2789
01:35:51,109 --> 01:35:48,960
it's like so many levels right

2790
01:35:56,870 --> 01:35:51,119
there are so many

2791
01:35:58,870 --> 01:35:56,880
that are misunderstood because

2792
01:36:00,870 --> 01:35:58,880
we don't know about them and we're

2793
01:36:03,430 --> 01:36:00,880
ignorant of them and i mean ignorant in

2794
01:36:07,350 --> 01:36:03,440
a non-pejorative sense

2795
01:36:08,870 --> 01:36:07,360
that we just fill in whatever

2796
01:36:10,709 --> 01:36:08,880
because it's something we don't know

2797
01:36:13,030 --> 01:36:10,719
about we just fill in what feels most

2798
01:36:14,629 --> 01:36:13,040
comfortable what makes us feel safe and

2799
01:36:15,669 --> 01:36:14,639
makes us feel whole

2800
01:36:17,590 --> 01:36:15,679
and um

2801
01:36:19,350 --> 01:36:17,600
or we've been conditioned and heard

2802
01:36:22,070 --> 01:36:19,360
forever that this is what this is like

2803
01:36:22,950 --> 01:36:22,080
perhaps perhaps right yeah perhaps yeah

2804
01:36:24,870 --> 01:36:22,960
um

2805
01:36:26,790 --> 01:36:24,880
totally but like not like honest to god

2806
01:36:28,229 --> 01:36:26,800
i mean i you know if you if you watch

2807
01:36:31,030 --> 01:36:28,239
that lecture i did my last video it's

2808
01:36:34,470 --> 01:36:31,040
just kind of like man i i know for a

2809
01:36:39,030 --> 01:36:36,070
that they have to have at least a little

2810
01:36:41,510 --> 01:36:39,040
bit of that in them to to do better for

2811
01:36:43,350 --> 01:36:41,520
mankind right to do better for everybody

2812
01:36:45,030 --> 01:36:43,360
around you to do better for

2813
01:36:46,550 --> 01:36:45,040
everybody you can possibly make

2814
01:36:47,990 --> 01:36:46,560
everything better for right that's kind

2815
01:36:50,310 --> 01:36:48,000
of like what we're charged with to like

2816
01:36:51,990 --> 01:36:50,320
make everything around you and

2817
01:36:54,310 --> 01:36:52,000
everything around you for everybody else

2818
01:36:56,709 --> 01:36:54,320
as best as you can make it

2819
01:36:58,229 --> 01:36:56,719
to the extent uh if you can without

2820
01:36:59,109 --> 01:36:58,239
hurting yourself

2821
01:37:01,189 --> 01:36:59,119
you know

2822
01:37:03,669 --> 01:37:01,199
and i think that's rad i think if we all

2823
01:37:06,870 --> 01:37:03,679
did that in every in our everyday lives

2824
01:37:09,830 --> 01:37:06,880
no matter what

2825
01:37:13,030 --> 01:37:09,840
we'd be an amazing species

2826
01:37:14,790 --> 01:37:13,040
if this is a truly a mic drop moment

2827
01:37:16,950 --> 01:37:14,800
john and i i really mean that i'd like

2828
01:37:19,189 --> 01:37:16,960
you to if you would please tell people

2829
01:37:20,950 --> 01:37:19,199
where that they can find your material

2830
01:37:23,270 --> 01:37:20,960
because i find a tremendous amount of

2831
01:37:24,950 --> 01:37:23,280
value in what you you have to say

2832
01:37:27,590 --> 01:37:24,960
thank you very very much thank you and i

2833
01:37:28,790 --> 01:37:27,600
appreciate you guys it's um ufo was on

2834
01:37:31,350 --> 01:37:28,800
the level

2835
01:37:33,109 --> 01:37:31,360
youtube john majorowski

2836
01:37:36,310 --> 01:37:33,119
on twitter

2837
01:37:37,430 --> 01:37:36,320
um yeah i'm unlike all the podcasts so

2838
01:37:40,950 --> 01:37:37,440
like

2839
01:37:42,390 --> 01:37:40,960
uh spotify apple

2840
01:37:46,870 --> 01:37:42,400
google stitcher

2841
01:37:49,350 --> 01:37:46,880
were on there too um so yeah i mean i

2842
01:37:51,510 --> 01:37:49,360
just try to find people

2843
01:37:53,430 --> 01:37:51,520
that i'm cool with like you guys and

2844
01:37:54,709 --> 01:37:53,440
that have a story

2845
01:38:06,790 --> 01:37:54,719
and

2846
01:38:07,830 --> 01:38:06,800
of what that's kind of what i've done so

2847
01:38:09,830 --> 01:38:07,840
like

2848
01:38:11,750 --> 01:38:09,840
everything you've seen that i've done

2849
01:38:13,750 --> 01:38:11,760
on my youtube channel stuff is just from

2850
01:38:17,270 --> 01:38:13,760
like my heart so

2851
01:38:18,550 --> 01:38:17,280
um that's where i'm at and

2852
01:38:21,030 --> 01:38:18,560
yeah

2853
01:38:23,030 --> 01:38:21,040
i uh i hope we're all in this together

2854
01:38:25,030 --> 01:38:23,040
so i'm super super appreciative of you

2855
01:38:27,910 --> 01:38:25,040
guys and and everything else that's been

2856
01:38:29,750 --> 01:38:27,920
going on and like hit me up

2857
01:38:31,830 --> 01:38:29,760
and let's just like surf it together

2858
01:38:33,750 --> 01:38:31,840
surf the wave it's coming just jump on

2859
01:38:36,550 --> 01:38:33,760
the board and just hang out together

2860
01:38:38,149 --> 01:38:36,560
that's the mission of cab and it aligns

2861
01:38:41,750 --> 01:38:38,159
perfectly with what

2862
01:38:42,830 --> 01:38:41,760
you said so for um for uh debs

2863
01:38:47,590 --> 01:38:42,840
for

2864
01:38:49,270 --> 01:38:47,600
saying peace out

2865
01:38:50,790 --> 01:38:49,280
one love

2866
01:38:53,590 --> 01:38:50,800
and we will see

2867
01:38:56,780 --> 01:38:53,600
you and john majorowski down the road